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Hi all,
Just about to buy a 2018 1.4 TB 120 Sport with around 15k miles.
My 15 year old 147 2.0TS (after 10 years of totally hassle free motoring since owned by me) has a gearbox linkage issue which makes it uneconomical to repair and this will be my replacement and 7th Alfa.
I noticed the lower power compared to my 150 bhp TS during the test drive but you wouldn't call the car sluggish and the slight loss in power is not an issue for me as I will use the car mostly for city driving.
I'm getting about 25mpg from my 147 with London driving. I'm hoping that the Giulietta will get 30 mpg. I see from figures that the official (so fantasy) combined amount is late 30s so I'm assuming the urban consumption will be low. Does anyone drive the 1.4L 120 bhp model around a city centre to tell me what a realistic mpg is?
I've watched the helpful buyers guide video but the car used was a diesel. If anyone has any helpful tips on things to look out for on a 1.4 120bhp engine, albeit that it has low mileage, please let me know.
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I drive the 1.4 multiair with 170bhp and average 33mpg around west London with a trip to Bournemouth once a month
 

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The 120 (non-Multiair) 1.4 was quite highly rated by a guy on here who’d had all the engine versions of Giulietta. Quick off the line etc but not really promoted due to the more expensive MA. It’s out survived that because of emissions.
 

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Weren't emissions from a 170 Multiair less than the 120?

My dad had a 120 and I drove it a few times. Quite impressed tbh, felt nippy and sounded good.
Sport looks like a good spec, especially in Misano and with the 18" 5-holes.
 
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In Alfa Rosso but does have the 5-hole rims
I also looked at the Mito 0.9 Twin Air and although a nice size car (for what I need), it seemed underpowered to what I'm used to and the door size of the 2 door models makes it impractical for me getting in/out in tight car park spaces.
Plus second hand car prices for anyone who hasn't noticed are totally ridiculous but I'm getting this for £11,750 which although extortionate is fairly competitive and not really different from the equivalent age/mileage MITO price. Plus it's from a non-Alfa main dealer who have said they'll service it (I read this as stamp a book), give me an MOT and touch up small scratches and the kerbed rims.
Reading up on the engine, it seems based on the old FIAT FIRE engine which I remember first making an appearance in the 1980s Fiat Unos. I like this as I assume easier to find people who have worked on them if the need arises.
I think I'll be lucky to get 30mpg which is, for me, the only downside as I see fuel prices rocketing as we all get forced to move to electric.
Still, it should be a car that is good value-for-money. The only alternatives at the price for this mileage and age are the Honda Jazz and Tioyota Yaris, neither of which appeal.
And after all, I'm an Alfa man through and through. I feel people expect to see me with an Alfa - a bit like McCartney with his violin bass :cool:
 

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You can't go wrong with a red Alfa. Enjoy.
 
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The 1.4 TB engine is one of the most reliable in my opinion. Nothing special to have in mind (like on the multi-air engine with VERY regular oil change intervals).

(I am not quite familiar with your units, but I think I converted them correctly :) )
I have one with 81 000 miles and no issue so far.
Consumption is around 34 mpg (but I drive only Autobahn). I think 30 mpg in city is feasible.
 

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Plus second hand car prices for anyone who hasn't noticed are totally ridiculous but I'm getting this for £11,750 which although extortionate is fairly competitive and not really different from the equivalent age/mileage MITO
Prices have been fuelled by Covid, brexit and the good old government banning older diesel in London with the new ULEZ comes in at the end of the month.

I paid £5K for my Giulietta 3 years ago with 60k it’s now worth £6k with 20000 more-miles

go figure!
 

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I get between 23 to 30 mpg in city driving, after they changed petrol to 10% ethanol mix (instead of 5% as before), the consumption has gone up to 25.
 

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Just been back for another look + drive of the car and have put down a deposit. Was pleasantly surprised that there seemed a noticeable difference between Dynamic and Normal on the D-N-A
Should be ready for collection next week.
I don't trust main dealer stamps in service booklets so will do an oil change, bleed brakes, change filters and maybe anti freeze just so I'm 100% sure (16k miles and 3 years - it's worth doing in my mind regardless of what Alfa recommends in terms of time intervals)
Looks like 5W40 C3 is the required spec. Is there a general preference for Selenia, Castrol, Fuchs, Millers, Mobil or Valvoline amongst Giulietta owners? Over the years I've flitted between these makes as they all seemed particularly popular at various times on the forum. I think Selenia has been bought by Petronas so I'm guessing the 5w40 C3 sold under their Syntium label is identical but cheaper than the Alfa/Selenia branded 5W40 C3.
DOT 3, 4 or 5.1 for the brake fluid?
 

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I use shell helix in my MA as it meets the spec and can be had for reasonable money,assume that will go in the non MA aswell??

also despite the low miles I would be looking at cambelt kit change in next 12 months as it will be four years old. Don’t know the recommended intervals on the 120bhp but 4 years or 40k would be my change point.
 

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I had the brake fluid changed on my G and it made a huge difference.
As for the oil, IMHO it's the spec' thst's important, not the brand.
 

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Thanks for the comments guys, particularly johnnyroper as I thought the need for such regular cambelt changes was specific to the twin spark engines. There is a lot to be said for having everything done when I get it so I can confidently set the clock to zero, as it were, from when I take ownership.
Am also looking for a new specialist as I've recently been disappointed in the one I've used since the 90s and it's a long journey. I'm in West London and know Auto Stilo in Park Royal from when he was Auto Mania in Harlesden but my good friend swears by L&M in Marlow so I'll definitely try them too.
Such a lot fewer Alfa independent specialists from when I started driving in the 80s on the glorious Nord and Boxer engines. I suppose Alfa's lack of affordable models has stung them hard with fewer cars about owned by people who wouldn't use a main dealer. Also, I don't think that these days you really need an Alfa specialist on the cars as much as you did, although I'd always use one...
 
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