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Hello i am about to sell my beloved 146 ti mainly because of the fuel consumption issue . I live in south London and commuting only in the city and for very short trip , unfortunately this means that I usually manage only 230 miles with one fuel thank .
I hope that a swicth to diesel will change that but i dont know anything about diesel engine !
What do I have to look for in a 2.4 jtd ? things like belts change strange noise o what ever else I should know before buying one. And last which one is better the 1.9 or the 2.4 ?

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Alessio.
 

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Had mine for 8 years, now done 180k Miles - Averages 42 MPG. Couple of minor repairs, nothing major (although have current problem posted today!)
Cam belt needs changing at 72K miles (approx £500), so make sure you figure that in if you arbout to buy one that's done 70K! Also make sure its been done if over 72K.
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short commutes add a lot of wear to any car, better off with a small engine that heats up quick....get a bike or take the bus??
 

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Hi,

Check wheel bearing whine esp' from the front.
Check inside front tyre wear.
Put it in 5th gear and floor it up to to 3200revs - if a little red injector light comes on then this could spell trouble.
Check the air con works correctly.
If it is around 65k make sure it has had the cambelt done - if not then walk.
Check all gauges work correctly - water temp speedo revs - don't worry about fuel gauge they are renowned to be crap on Alfas
Oil level can be a pig to check as the angle the dip stick is at, so when pulling the dip stick out try not to twist it as this can cause bad readings of the oil level.
Make sure it has been serviced reguraly.
Rev the nuts of it in 3rd and listen to the gorgeous straight 5 cylinder engine - this is what sold the car to me.

They can also be remapped - Angel Tuning are regarded as the best in the business - I've read many many good reviews about them and the are v.v.helpfull. I''ve not got mine done yet but will be within the next 2 months. They take the 156 2/4 JTD up to about 189bhp andthe fuel economy INCREASES beleive it or not.

As a rule before remap the 2.4 JTD costs about £55 to fill up and you'll get at least 500miles from that - this also sold it to me.
 

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JTDs are great, mines Angel Tuned to "over 200bhp, according to Nige", but the clutch ain't liking it, but its still on its original one and with 112K its lasted well, probably would've needed a new one at some point. Engine is sweet as a nut, just got cambelt, tensioners and aux belt changed for £250 at a local specialist in Co. Durham. Still get about 35mpg and I USE those extra horses :D

If you can, jack the car up at the front end and try to wobble the wheels. If theres play, wishbone bearings are shot, tops aren't too expensive to replace, bottoms are. It could be both that need doing and until you get them sorted handling is atrocious. But I wouldn't be put off by a high milage car as long as its had servicing done as and when required. For short trips, I wouldn't recommend it because this isn't what diesels are good for. When I had the 175bhp map on I'd get about 40mpg even with a lot of town driving as you can just let it idle and the torque pulls you along.. But short runs don't do big diesels good, get a little Fiat Panda 1.3JTDm and enjoy 70mpg, you might be able to keep the ti for weekends then :D
 

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What they said above. my 2.4 is dead easy on fuel but when doing a lot of shorter runs this last week where the car never really got heated up (dicky stat not helping there) i found it quite capable of drinking fuel at an alarming rate. though possibly not as bad as your current car does.

Bigger diesels are probs best suited to long cruises rather than town stuff, though a nice small diesel works well on every front in a town .
 

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If you don't exceed 70mph, the 1.3 diesels are alright. I've heard if you go any faster, the high rpms kill any fuel savings and bring you right down into the 30s :eek:

I drove a Vauxhall Astravan 1.7td for a while, cracking engine and got about 55mpg on a steady 200 mile run. Its nippy enough from the lights too until you get to third gear where it would lose against an equivalent sized petrol.. But still, it was responsive and torquey for motorway overtakes, couldn't fault it except for having about as much soul as a fish finger. :D
 

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OIn another note my girlf has a 1.9 Punto W reg and I've been using it while my Alfa is off the road. Great little car, better fuel economy to the JTD as it doesn't have a turbo (bit like my Alfa then :))and shifts well in high gears.

She picked ut up for £2k with 55k on the clock and FFSH.
 
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