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I just lost my 156sw 1.8ts. I've got an '02 156sw 2.0ts and an '04 2.0jts for sale in the area. The ts is cheaper and lower miles, but both look like pretty good buys. Any opinions? Also, is the timing belt also a critical thing on the jts like on the ts?
 

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Do you really need to ask? Ts is cheaper, lower miles and stronger engine.
Have a good look underneath both for rust. My guess is the non face lift will look better here as well.
 

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Generally the TS is considered the better of the engines. JTS have a bad reputation for reliability and yes they have the same sort of timing belt requirements as the TS.

So if the TS is lower mileage, cheaper and drives nicely with no major rust; its the one to get!
 

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I agree to the two answers you've got.
I bought a 3½ year old 2.0 TS driven 60.000 miles and had it in 9½ years until 136.000 miles. No problems and largely only service.
 

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Thanks. I was already leaning toward the TS. The JTS motor though is rated at 122Kw vs. 110 for the TS, and with slightly better fuel economy. I'm surprised the 2.0ts isn't stronger, as my 1.8 had 106Kw.
 

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Thanks. I was already leaning toward the TS. The JTS motor though is rated at 122Kw vs. 110 for the TS, and with slightly better fuel economy. I'm surprised the 2.0ts isn't stronger, as my 1.8 had 106Kw.
You are comparing different era engines.
CF2 1.8TS = 106kW/144hp
CF2 2.0TS = 114kW/155hp

CF3 1.8TS = 103kW/140hp
CF3 2.0TS = 110kW/150hp
 

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Thanks. I was already leaning toward the TS. The JTS motor though is rated at 122Kw vs. 110 for the TS, and with slightly better fuel economy. I'm surprised the 2.0ts isn't stronger, as my 1.8 had 106Kw.
JTS is a bit more powerful but its a bit of a pig of an engine from what I have seen here and in the GTV section (and also my former Alfa specialist who hated them with a passion).

And as David said, the TS had a slight power reduction due to emissions regulations and getting an extra catalyst for the CF3. Its still a lovely engine though and it might use a tad more fuel but they are generally more reliable than the JTS so you should save money on maintenance there.
 

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Can you remove manifold cats in a TS as you can with the v6?
 

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Yes you can fit cf2 downpipes and flexi then a welded in lambda sensor to remove the cats.

No issues with that or mot generally.
As long as you keep the third cat in.

Probably not worth the outlay though really. But it will give yiu the extra ponies back plus extra torque.
 

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I took the plunge. 2L TS SW. Blue metallic, leather, 60k miles. Not a spec of rust. €2200. Needs a few things, but nothing major. Wife wanted to move to something bigger, but it was my birthday!
 

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Congratulations on your birthday.
I'll remember if I want something that my wife thinks isn't necessary (happens a lot) I'll wait untill my birthday :biglaugh:
 

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It didn't hurt that my wife is at least as thrifty as me. The Citroen C5 wagon she liked cost about double:yes:
 
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