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Has anyone had their 1750 TBI remapped?

Just wondered what sort of figures, how it drives and puts the power down etc etc... as I still can't make my mind up which way to go...
 

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Nobody had a remap?
 

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I couldn't find anyone who had their 1750 remapped. Plenty of so-and-so are developing a map but no-one seems to have actually done it yet. There was a Dutch 1750 which was remapped but there were just a few posts on the subject. iirc, he posted when he'd just had it done and driven it in the rain so couldn't really "try it out". He said it certainly felt different and that he would post back more conclusive thoughts, but he never did.

I've just bought a novitec powerjet 3, which should be coming today or tomorrow. I'll let you know how that goes.
 

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mango's lent me one for a week 18 months ago with a steinbauer tuning box fitted, they reckon it was churning out 239bhp. i can quite believe it as well - it was very quick with a surprising slug of torque. i liked it - i think it worked well, but it was ball-squeezingly thirsty
 

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Has anyone had their 1750 TBI remapped?

Just wondered what sort of figures, how it drives and puts the power down etc etc... as I still can't make my mind up which way to go...
Hi - these guys are offering it....

Alfa Romeo Tuning · MONZA SPORTS TUNING · Approved Alfa Romeo Specialists

Also AHM in Hampshire
Alfa Romeo Remaps | DPF Removal | Alfa Mito, Brera, GT, 159, Giulietta | Petrol & Diesel Performance Increase
290bhp for £499....!!

Theres a testimonial from a guy who's had it done on his Guilietta , don't know if hes on here
 

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Hi - these guys are offering it....

Alfa Romeo Tuning · MONZA SPORTS TUNING · Approved Alfa Romeo Specialists

Also AHM in Hampshire
Alfa Romeo Remaps | DPF Removal | Alfa Mito, Brera, GT, 159, Giulietta | Petrol & Diesel Performance Increase
290bhp for £499....!!

Theres a testimonial from a guy who's had it done on his Guilietta , don't know if hes on here
Thanks George, I'm sure in a previous thread someone said the turbo was smaller on the 159 than the Giulietta, hence only 200 bhp as standard, compared to 235 bhp.

So I'm not sure the 290 bhp is applicable?

The Monzasport site seems to imply circa 247 bhp is possible though...
 

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Thanks George, I'm sure in a previous thread someone said the turbo was smaller on the 159 than the Giulietta, hence only 200 bhp as standard, compared to 235 bhp.
yep...forgot about that:rolleyes:


So I'm not sure the 290 bhp is applicable?

The Monzasport site seems to imply circa 247 bhp is possible though...
yep...forgot its 200bhp :rolleyes:

I believe there's also alfatune who are alot closer to you....St Helens I think
 

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Wish it was 290 bhp lol. Ah well still not totally out of the question...
 

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Novitec powerjet 3

Well, the Novitec Powerjet 3 came earlier. Their quoted figures are 159 1.8 TBi > 242 bhp & 370 Nm. I have no way of knowing if this is true without a dyno, but I'm smilling :D

Fitting was easy as easy gets really and I'm virtually a mechanical cretin. You just unplug 3 plugs, plug the boxes terminals in, hook up the battery and it's done.

The engine immediately felt "free-er". I took it out for a quick drive down a country lane and on a dual carriageway, acceleration was much more impressive especially at the higher end. First and second gear don't feel like hurdles to get out of the way now, the car pulls to a useful pace in both without revving the doggies off it. Overtaking in normal traffic conditions is much quicker now, overall response is smile inducing like I said.

I'm sure a real remap would be more flexible and all that, but I'm happy with the Novitec box.
 

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Thanks George, I'm sure in a previous thread someone said the turbo was smaller on the 159 than the Giulietta, hence only 200 bhp as standard, compared to 235 bhp.

So I'm not sure the 290 bhp is applicable?

The Monzasport site seems to imply circa 247 bhp is possible though...
Just worth mentioning that the 235 bhp of the Giulietta is not constantly available but is developed during acceleration as a temporary power boost, whereas the 200 bhp of the 159TBi is there all the time. At constant speed it is likely that the Giulietta is also running at 200 bhp. They seem to run a different map. It was mentioned in the small print at launch.
 

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Well, the Novitec Powerjet 3 came earlier. Their quoted figures are 159 1.8 TBi > 242 bhp & 370 Nm. I have no way of knowing if this is true without a dyno, but I'm smilling :D

Fitting was easy as easy gets really and I'm virtually a mechanical cretin. You just unplug 3 plugs, plug the boxes terminals in, hook up the battery and it's done.

The engine immediately felt "free-er". I took it out for a quick drive down a country lane and on a dual carriageway, acceleration was much more impressive especially at the higher end. First and second gear don't feel like hurdles to get out of the way now, the car pulls to a useful pace in both without revving the doggies off it. Overtaking in normal traffic conditions is much quicker now, overall response is smile inducing like I said.

I'm sure a real remap would be more flexible and all that, but I'm happy with the Novitec box.
Sounds good fella :thumbs: I've had my fair share of tuning boxes so know the merits well! :) I think I'd prefer a bespoke remap this time round with exhaust, induction and reducing temps etc if I go the 1750 route... Keep me posted though if you get some RR results!

Just worth mentioning that the 235 bhp of the Giulietta is not constantly available but is developed during acceleration as a temporary power boost, whereas the 200 bhp of the 159TBi is there all the time. At constant speed it is likely that the Giulietta is also running at 200 bhp. They seem to run a different map. It was mentioned in the small print at launch.
Yeah you're right Mike, and only in dynamic mode if memory serves me right in the Giulietta.

Be nice to confirm though whether the turbo is definitely not the same in both cars? i.e. 159 turbo smaller than in the Giuliettta?
 

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mango's lent me one for a week 18 months ago with a steinbauer tuning box fitted, they reckon it was churning out 239bhp. i can quite believe it as well - it was very quick with a surprising slug of torque. i liked it - i think it worked well, but it was ball-squeezingly thirsty
Sorry Al! Wasn't ignoring you fella! :p

Yeah I know they're thirsting from the other thread... However I think 28 - 30 mpg average seems to be the concensious, so not all that bad if you can get the power up to circa 240+bhp... I could live with that (maybe lol)

If I could get a new enough (60 plate onwards) 2.4 diseasel I wouldn't even be considering the 1750.
 

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Yes it is.
Thanks for clearing that up Gus! :thumbs:

Bloody Italians... Why can't they leave things alone! You'd have thought with it being the heavier car an all...

I take it the cost to change to the Giulietta one is ridiculous, but not out of the question?
 

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Wowsers! :eek: That's not for the faint hearted!

Still a remapped 1750tbi with a decent free flowing exhaust and improved induction must still make it an attractive proposition?

250bhp+??

The reason why I'm asking all of these questions is I'm torn between a 1750tbi 159 60 plate which is £4k cheaper than an 11 plate Giulietta Cloverleaf that I also like. both under 5k miles on the clock, demo cars.

The 159 seems a lot more 'Alfa' than the 'G' in many ways, some of which I can't put my finger on, but I must admit that I'm warming to the giulietta's slowely.
 

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I would go for the Giulietta! Much better steering due to the weight compared to 159....
Better steering on a G:confused:

It's a nasty ePAS system:tut:

Then there's the front end of it, and the interior quality(

The 159 is a much better car!
 

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Have to agree with SR on the interior quality issue... the 159 does seem to be the most car for the money, yes its an older (design) car but i think it was probably the peak of Alfa quality (in that it was over engineered in the early cars anyway), now everything will be pared down to a price in future models...
 
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