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Hi guys, has anyone tried replicating the 164 633 graphite grey metallic paint? you can get colour match but its polyester based and its incredibly exepnsive, something like £40 per litre, i know its difficult because its not really used for metallic type paint but i want to use Cellulose as its cheap and i dont want to poison myself, after seeing the price of some of these specialist polyester and solvent basecoat paints and hearing that you need to lacquer them with acrylic lacquer as well i am starting the search for a cellulose bumper alternative with a similar shade, if anyone has looked before or has a colour code suggestion that looks similar im open to suggestions
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To me, that does not sound too expensive.

I bought 1.5 litres of colour matched base coat and painted my bonnet, roof, wings, boot, rear quarter panel on my 156 and still have about 500ml left over. That cost me about $200 NZD, so thats about £100. Add some thinners, $20, and then the cleacoat and more thinners.

I also recently painted both a front and rear bumper for a car and I managed to get away with 500ml basecoat. Which I thinned by 50%. Then some more clearcoat and thinners with that too. And primer.

Now I did buy a air compressor and a air paint spray gun and air sander, suitable respirator etc to do those jobs but hopefully the gear will last for many more years and painting to come.

Depending how bad the bumpers are you could potentially just get away with colour matched paint in a can. 2 x 300ml should do a whole bumper, and some canned clear coat to put on top. Most of the work is in the preparation, and some flaws like orange peel can be mostly fixed later on with a fine wet sand and compound polish.

Sounds like you already have some equipment as you are considering the celluose stuff which I guess is applied with air tools? Just buy a good respirator for painting and you literally do not smell anything.
 

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Hi, thanks for getting back to me 😊
yeah I have a compressor, guns,sand paper,air sander, electric polisher, 20l of celly thinners etc. I intend to respray the body in Rosso 130 cellulose which is about £65 for 5 litres (10 litres when thinned) that's why I thought £40 for a litre was a bit steep, the seller also didn't indicate what lacquer was needed and whether this basecoat paint was compatible with cellulose primer

I have a 3m mask which is pretty decent but no respirator so I am going to have to go for the non toxic paints.

If you think 1litre may be enough maybe I'll give it a shot then.
I just wish the seller would get back to me about what thinners, lacquer and primer is needed for this basecoat stuff

Thanks mate 😊
 

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If the seller is a proper sort of paint shop they should be able to supply you with all the information you need. The last thing that you want is incompatible paints and thinners all mixing on one surface. It could create quite the mess.

I find the whole paint thing very confusing, and so much to it. Paint, guns, thinners/hardeners. The shop I went to to buy the paint alos supplied to the automotive trade so I was reasonably confident in their answers to my few questions.

If it's a 3M mask which has the removable filter cartridges then you should be able to buy ones for painting. I think it's the vapour ones.

1L base coat should be more than enough. I painted the front and rear bumpers on my 96 Mercedes SL, which has reasonably sized bumpers and there was just enough paint. Given that the primer was grey and topcoat white it turned out good for the volume I bought (500ml) and I had to re-coat a couple of places due to some defects.

Just start with one bumper and see how far it goes. That was my plan when I painted mine.
 

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If the seller is a proper sort of paint shop they should be able to supply you with all the information you need. The last thing that you want is incompatible paints and thinners all mixing on one surface. It could create quite the mess.

I find the whole paint thing very confusing, and so much to it. Paint, guns, thinners/hardeners. The shop I went to to buy the paint alos supplied to the automotive trade so I was reasonably confident in their answers to my few questions.

If it's a 3M mask which has the removable filter cartridges then you should be able to buy ones for painting. I think it's the vapour ones.

1L base coat should be more than enough. I painted the front and rear bumpers on my 96 Mercedes SL, which has reasonably sized bumpers and there was just enough paint. Given that the primer was grey and topcoat white it turned out good for the volume I bought (500ml) and I had to re-coat a couple of places due to some defects.

Just start with one bumper and see how far it goes. That was my plan when I painted mine.
I find the types of paint and what they mean very confusing too, it's a total rabbit hole and I just want to stay safe

I think I have a chart somewhere for what filter does what on the 3m masks but I'd have to find it, I used the standard filters whilst spraying some cold galvanising paint outdoors on the subframe and I'm sure the fumes got through that because I felt like absolute crap

I have the front and rear numbers and the skirts lined up in my garden so that's the plan hehe
 
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