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Hi All,

getting used to the new toy and thought i would share my views:

As everyone says - what a great looking car, nice stance and it works from all angles - i still think its one of - if not the best looking mid sizew saloons on the market. My friends love it and most clients (am an estate agent - yeah, i know) are impressed with it.

The interior is great, sports seats are very hugging ( not great if you have a big rear end ) - ive grown to like the alcantara although at first i was not happy they had stopped using full leather on the ti. In fact, these are some of the best seats i have sat in, apart from Bentleys etc tjhey are hard to better IMO. the controls work great and i have found a really comfortable driving position. Cruise control takes some getting used to as does Blue&me but its a good facility to have. AND OF COURSE.... the interior looks great as well !

On the road, love the set up, i actually find the ride quite compliant but nicely firm, you can really load it up on progressive corners and i know i have suprised a few people on the bends, my mate has a gtd golf, its got the edge in a straight line but not in the curves - where it matters for me (either that or he's a pussy:lol:)

I've read a lot of posts about re-maps and dpf and i would do this work in a moment but its a lease company car and i'm sure they would not approve. I think the car needs this work though as the throttle is really lazy and the whole set-up is all or nothing. The power band is a bit odd as well - very highly ranged for a diesel, which is good but the car seems to really lack low down grunt in 1st & 2nd although it seems to fly in 3rd - cant get my head around that one at all? Fuel consumption is actually pretty awful all things considered but i will just have to live with a 36mpg average.....

All in all a really great car, i love the fact that its a bit flash and clearly an enthusiasts car without being the least bit brash or tacky..

Cheers all,

keep seeing a few other 159s thrashing around west yorkshire and they look mint!

Merry christmas
 

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No what you mean about mpg, was a bit disappointed myself but hey what a car, I'm considering remap but don't really want to she'll out £700.00 for the pleasure :)
 

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Hi

6 weeks into 159TI ownership and my experience has been similar.

I came from a 2003 Passat 130TDI (165k miles) - I had been running it for 3 years, it never caused any concerns, I serviced it as per longlife (21k+ intervals) and nothing broke, nothing rattled etc. It is not that I had low expectations, simply, nothing went wrong.

Within a week of picking up the TI there is a rattle from the front end BLS (great chaps) diagnose it as a driveshaft, but not worth replacing currently (they did that for free, as I say, nice chaps!).

The gearknob came loose, fixed thanks to advice in a thread here and a 10mm spanner.

The red paint appears very vulnerable, picks up chips very easily.

The seats are nice, so long as you have a "Recaro arse" (whatdoyouknow, I have!), whoever thought it would be a good idea to put the heated seat control there?!

The Passat was a 1.9 130BHP, the TI is a 1.9 150BHP - initially it felt like a slower, heavier car. Looking at the T-curve from a thread on here and "learning" to drive it, I accept it is the same kind of performance, but feels heavier.

It looks fantastic. No question. All the more so when lined up in the office Car Park with a series of Black or Silver Audis and BMWs. :D

Blue and Me? The Parrot I had fitted in the VW was better.

I got between 35mpg (town only driving) and 55mpg (all A roads) - or 60mpg (driving like a Nun).
In the TI I am getting 28mpg Town driving and have yet to do a full tank of A-roads, but suspect 40mpg is likely.

Am I happy with the 159TI? Yes :inlove:

Does it give anything like the good value a £2500 VW Passat would offer? No :(

Would I recommend buy one? No :tut: (But only because I like it that they are rare... :thumbs: )

My car is a 59 reg and has 67k miles - I will get an Alfa Service before the Warranty runs out and get fixed whatever is required.

I will get the front geometry set to 0' toe-in.

If you are reading this wondering if you should move from your black/silver Audi/VW/BMW/Merc to an Alfa, the answer is "YES!!!!" (so long as you don't live too near me :) )
 

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Hi

6 weeks into 159TI ownership and my experience has been similar.

I came from a 2003 Passat 130TDI (165k miles) - I had been running it for 3 years, it never caused any concerns, I serviced it as per longlife (21k+ intervals) and nothing broke, nothing rattled etc. It is not that I had low expectations, simply, nothing went wrong.

Within a week of picking up the TI there is a rattle from the front end BLS (great chaps) diagnose it as a driveshaft, but not worth replacing currently (they did that for free, as I say, nice chaps!).

The gearknob came loose, fixed thanks to advice in a thread here and a 10mm spanner.

The red paint appears very vulnerable, picks up chips very easily.

The seats are nice, so long as you have a "Recaro arse" (whatdoyouknow, I have!), whoever thought it would be a good idea to put the heated seat control there?!

The Passat was a 1.9 130BHP, the TI is a 1.9 150BHP - initially it felt like a slower, heavier car. Looking at the T-curve from a thread on here and "learning" to drive it, I accept it is the same kind of performance, but feels heavier.

It looks fantastic. No question. All the more so when lined up in the office Car Park with a series of Black or Silver Audis and BMWs. :D

Blue and Me? The Parrot I had fitted in the VW was better.

I got between 35mpg (town only driving) and 55mpg (all A roads) - or 60mpg (driving like a Nun).
In the TI I am getting 28mpg Town driving and have yet to do a full tank of A-roads, but suspect 40mpg is likely.

Am I happy with the 159TI? Yes :inlove:

Does it give anything like the good value a £2500 VW Passat would offer? No :(

Would I recommend buy one? No :tut: (But only because I like it that they are rare... :thumbs: )

My car is a 59 reg and has 67k miles - I will get an Alfa Service before the Warranty runs out and get fixed whatever is required.

I will get the front geometry set to 0' toe-in.

If you are reading this wondering if you should move from your black/silver Audi/VW/BMW/Merc to an Alfa, the answer is "YES!!!!" (so long as you don't live too near me :) )


Is that yr car in the pictures, looks lovely :thumbs: do like the ti, think that will b my next car, usually change every 6-9 months :lol:
 

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They do look brilliant in Alfa Red, i had a tester in that but decided to go for the more conservative Stromboli - which i love.

Agree to most you say - 1 have run VAG motors for years and the wife has a 130pd passat - which has more instant kick to it. Having said that, i came home along my favourite ropad last night, had it really opened up and yet again was really suprised by just how well it tackles corners - not wishing to sound crazy but for example it devours one at 70mph that feels a bit wild at 55mph in a passat.

The power is there but you really have to thrash it to make it happen - which is not a typical diesel style, closer to the BMW way of doing things.

Another thing i realise the more i get into the car is just how good it sounds for a diesel....especially powering down through a gear - there's a great resonance and it alomost sounds like its burbling like a tuned petrol engine.

Sod the fuel economy, we could all be living in mud huts soons so make the most of it. Before coming home met a couple of colleagues/mates at a local pub and they were both really impressed with it - especically the interior & it looks twice as good as theirs ( 325d & 220 cdi ) easy.
 

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I was just thinking of adding my own review having had my 2009 09 1.9JTDm Lusso for about 6 weeks / 3500 Miles but will jsut add on here.

I went for the Lusso mainly as I don't have a Recaro Backside and therefore found it uncomfortable.

In the 6 weeks i have averaged 42Mpg mainly sitting on the M25 in a traffic jam.

Still enjoy getting in it every day even considering I am driving to Luton:cry: round the M25 in rush hour.

Yes I got better consumption out of a Renault Megane 1.9DTi even at 120000 Miles but the Alfa is Nicer.

My Wifes Vectra is quieter and better if you just want to get somewhere painlessly but with the Alfa you are happy when you get there.

Handling no idea how far it will go to the limit but grips like a !!!!!

The only problems I have had were C**p radio reception (Fixed with a cheap e-bay FM amp) and the wipers needed replaceing. Also the brakes have a slight judder in them I new about before I brought it and will probably need new Disks and Pads at the next Service.

Both myself and my wife have had people come up to us in carparks just to ask stupid questions to be near it. (Name another brand that happens at this price tag!)

All in all I love it.

If you don't care and just want to get where your going then there is better else where but if you have any interest in cars whats not to love.:thumbs:
 

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Well I have my Ti now >4 years on and with approx 45k miles on the clock I still never get sick of it.

I've had a few warranty issues... some biggies; but on the whole very happy with my car. Every morning I sit in and push the 'Start' button I still get that feeling/rush. So, in my opinion, the car purely as a product, that, makes it special.

I hope you all continue to enjoy your cars over the coming years as much as I have... :thumbs:


Btw, I'm seeing ~22/28mpg with the 2.2JTS and ~34/40mpg with the 1.9JTDm.
 

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I've had my 1.9JTDm TI for only a couple of weeks having come from 1.9TDI (130) and 2.0TDi (140) Audi A6's. The Alfa is slow and has crap fuel economy (no, really, it is appalling for such a poorly performing car), and needs a new driveshaft. But I love the seats and I love driving it. The Audi's were not made for drivers, the Alfa appears to be.

I'm a sucker for a good looking car, and happier with this terribly expensive to run diesel than the boring 50mpg faster alternative from VAG.

By the way, I did have a 2.2HDi 406 Coupe (136bhp) and that was a terrible performer too, but a cracking looking car, so I know what I'm on about. I would never recommend a French or Italian car to anyone, for similar reasons to others on this thread.

Andy
 

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My wife Previously had a Ford Galaxy (aka VW Sharron) with the 1.9TDI 115BHP engine. Engine was great and sat on crusie control with climate control on you should still get 40MPG out of a near 2 tonne brick. Shame the rest of the car was absolute C**P. Drive shaft wore out (Yes actually just sheared all the splines off) which was a known issue. Climate control hardly ever worked and when it did it wasn't up to the job.

Lovely way for mooving kids around but worst car we have ever owned by some way for reliability.

Not sure whos fault the design was (VW provided climate control, engine, gearbox etc and Ford provided some badges and then told you to put a lower spec oil in than VAG) but it really was a case in point of we will take a passat as thats a good car and add three times the interior area and half a tonne to it and not change anything to deal with that.
 

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Just pumped the tyres to the recommended levels in the owners manual and the handling is even sharper....

I think most will agree that it could be faster and cheaper to run but you cant knock the grin factor !

There was a bit of mutual respect between a bloke in a Maser' Quattroporte and me in the fuel station this morning - nows thats a glorious beast that i would like to have one day.

The more i drive the 159 the more i like it and am really learning how to get the most out of the engine - is it just me or does it like it 3300 - 4750 rpm.....:cool:
 

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Is the question about faster / cheaper to run and grin factor about the 159 or the Quattroporte as it appears to work against both:)

Yes I too have seen that this diesel appears to like revs more than others I have driven. Maybe thats why it seams slow as its not being driven as its designed to be.
 

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2008 (08) 159 2.4 Ti Q4

Just ticked over to 30k miles now, which means i've had her for just under 3000miles

Pro's:

- GORGEOUS to look at, can't stop turning around to have another look when i've parked up and walking away from her
- 2.4 engine sounds lush for a derv
- interior is a wonderful place
- friends/family all love it
- handles like its on rails, even in the wet
- the fact that it's very exclusive, there's 1 other in my home town that i see often and then probably a maximum of 10 i've seen on my travels, most of which aren't Ti's anyway
-blue and me is decent 90% of the time

Con's:
- fuel economy isn't great, i came from a Mondeo ST TDCi which was giving me 50mpg on the motorways
- isn't as fast as i'd like, very heavy car but the EGR/DPF and remap will sort that ;)
- Q4 system is very clunky when changing gear, but may just be me getting used to the car

All in all, 9/10

Truly one of the best looking cars available today, a few little engine mods and it will be rather nippy as well. Overall, i love her. Best car i've ever had and the Alfa community on here is nothing but helpful. The Audi and Ford generation that i was with before were OK, but because there's so many of them they tend to be an odd bunch of people

Would i recommend to a friend? FCUK YEAH!
 

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Alfas are awesome - it seems that people who drive them are awesome - its a heart thing and that can only be good. All the practicalities fly out of the window compared to those beautiful looks....i actually stopped in our dark street (no street lights) on the way back from the village shop last night and just watched as vehicles passed it and illuminated it from different directions - really showed the form of the body and those wheels....

Car porn is all i will say on the matter...

Daniel350 - damn right - if you want a quick motor thrash it - it loves it !! then ease off and you've got a really civilised cruiser....

Am about to go and fill it with high performance fuel and see what that does !

Merry Christmas all.:thumbs:
 

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interesting thread. I purchased my 59 plate ti 16 months ago with 10k on the clock trading in my 70,000 mile 159 lusso. I did have initial reservation as I had read the problems with tyre wear and as I cover about 20,000 miles a year, it really was a case of heart ruling the head. Well she now has 37,000 on the clock and the car gets better. I do not suffer the performance problems as I had the mangoletsi remap taking it from 150 to 200bhp which makes all the difference, mpg on the motorway hovers around 45mpg. Interestingly enough I put a new set of Pirelli's on at 21,000 and just had them checked, 3mm still on on them so will get about 18k on the front. Reliability has been excellent (as with my previous Alfa's) I did have a problem with peeling paint on the bonnet which was resolved within a week of contacting my local dealer under warranty. Question is what next? The Alfa range is limited at the moment and know one seems to know when the 159 replacement will be out. Could I ever drive a German equivalent, never! I had a new need C class for a week recently, well made, comfy,powerful but dull as dishwater.
 

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Does anyone know if a re-map would be permissable on a lease hire car - or is it likely to void the warranty / increase insurance etc etc...boring i know but its not a question im prepared to ask through the formal channels.....

I have hardly driven the car over the xmas break and it must be the first time i have actually looked forward to the first commute after a couple of weeks off !
 

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Yes, remap!!

Old thread, I know... But! Anyone else reading this, get a remap!
GDJE There is no chance anyone will know your car has been remapped, unless they have software and a computer able to plug into your car. As for telling your insurance company... well that... is up to you! ;)
 
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