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:xmas: MERRY CHRISTMAS

I see ECP have got a Christmas sale on so thought I'd treat the car to a Christmas pressie (new discs and pads all round) the problem is, there are literally so many options on their website, even when I put the car reg in...:(

Any help greatly received, my car is a 09 Lusso (159) I think I read that the screws or something are different, any way to tell what I've got without removing the wheels?

Cheers!
 

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Forgot to add, it's a 1.9jtdm
 

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For road use I would recommend the Pagid ones.
Any idea which ones though? There are 2 different ones for the front and 2 for the back (305mm)....confused.com

Not 100% sure on the diameter for the rears either (non TI). They do like making it difficult....
 

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Not sure, might be worth emailing them as often they list different types even though you have added your reg.

They list 2 different types for the G, one for Brembo calipers the other for ATE.
 

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Not guna be much chance of me ordering today then :(

I would think someone else with a Lusso must have ordered the Pagid discs? If anyone else reads this and can advise it'll be greatly received :)
 

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You might find them even cheaper at carparts4less. This is the online sister site of ECP.

I bought Bosch disk via ebay and use with EBC Redstuff pads and I think that gives a very good combination at reasonable cost.

Oh, and if you don't know when it was last done change the brake fluid as well.
 

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You might find them even cheaper at carparts4less. This is the online sister site of ECP.

I bought Bosch disk via ebay and use with EBC Redstuff pads and I think that gives a very good combination at reasonable cost.

Oh, and if you don't know when it was last done change the brake fluid as well.
Sweet, thanks, had a quick look and looks like everything is about £2 cheaper, depends on if they have a discount code as well.

Don't suppose you can shed any light on the actual ones I need? Am I right in thinking the rear discs aren't vented?
 

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A 2009 1.9 lusso should have 305 mm front discs with the smaller matching Brembo calipers and the smaller rear discs.
The different disc screws goes by chassis number, my 2006 car uses the later type so so will yours.

To be certain that you do have the 4 pot Brembo calipers can you post a picture.
 

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I would be wary of using cheaper discs for two reasons.

the better ones are often coated, so do not rust as much. I am talking about all of the parts which the pads don't rub on.

Often cheaper discs rust quite badly and look awful.

Secondly I have had problems with cheap discs (Eicher) distorting and causing vibrations under heavy braking. As soon they cooled off the vibrations stopped.

Currently I have Bendix discs and Pagid pads on the front of my G. They are a very good combination and the discs haven't rusted.
 

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I would be wary of using cheaper discs for two reasons.

the better ones are often coated, so do not rust as much. I am talking about all of the parts which the pads don't rub on.

Often cheaper discs rust quite badly and look awful.

Secondly I have had problems with cheap discs (Eicher) distorting and causing vibrations under heavy braking. As soon they cooled off the vibrations stopped.

Currently I have Bendix discs and Pagid pads on the front of my G. They are a very good combination and the discs haven't rusted.
When it comes to safety on the car, I won't go cheap n nasty...I've read good reviews that the Pagid discs are a good OEM to expensive ones.
 

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Well they do all have to meet a certain standard with regards to stopping the car.

I think pads have to be +/-15% of the originals in terms of stopping power.

Of course if you currently have a pad which is 15% better than standard and you swap for one 15% worse you are going to notice a big difference.


I have been running the Pagid pads on a few cars, and for road/fast road use they are perfect. Quiet, not much dust, last a long time and the car stops quickly and reliably.

Ferodo's are good as well, but personally I don't like EBC much.
 

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why not brembos? for the price might as well stay standard!

http://www.bremboaftermarket.com/En...AssemblySide=Both&SearchCatalogueBrand=Brembo

you will see they have <-####### and ->####### options on most which is your Chassis number (<-, being before chassis number... ->, being after chassis number).
red vehicle symbol is fronts, Black vehicle symbol is rears.
discs are shipped as standard unpainted. if you replace the last 0 of the part number with a 1 you will get the painted disc varient (better anti rust protection)

for the 159 all pad kits (fronts and rears) seem to start with P23 ###

for reference i just bought a set of front pads for my 'new' 2.4 for <£35 delivered from Opie oils via ebay.
i believe the same set from alfa (literally the same pad, in a different box) is circa £100.

hope this makes some kind of sense. any questions i'd be happy to help.
 
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why not brembos? for the price might as well stay standard!

Brembo Aftermarket Catalogue

you will see they have <-####### and ->####### options on most which is your Chassis number (<-, being before chassis number... ->, being after chassis number).
red vehicle symbol is fronts, Black vehicle symbol is rears.
discs are shipped as standard unpainted. if you replace the last 0 of the part number with a 1 you will get the painted disc varient (better anti rust protection)

for the 159 all pad kits (fronts and rears) seem to start with P23 ###

for reference i just bought a set of front pads for my 'new' 2.4 for <£35 delivered from Opie oils via ebay.
i believe the same set from alfa (literally the same pad, in a different box) is circa £100.

hope this makes some kind of sense. any questions i'd be happy to help.
Very helpful, thanks!

Will look into this in the morning. I take it the set you bought were Brembos?
 

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Very helpful, thanks!

Will look into this in the morning. I take it the set you bought were Brembos?
yep, these to be exact.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171503955534

just be aware that it doesnt include the pin kits for the caliper... it is literally just the pads. from my research pin kits are around £30-35 but i cant remember who makes them... i was putting my eggs in the basket of the pins being ok! (for my 2.4... I can't comment on your 1.9)
 

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yep, these to be exact.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171503955534

just be aware that it doesnt include the pin kits for the caliper... it is literally just the pads. from my research pin kits are around £30-35 but i cant remember who makes them... i was putting my eggs in the basket of the pins being ok! (for my 2.4... I can't comment on your 1.9)
After a long time scratching my head I think I finally found what I need (richydraper if you think it's wrong please yell at me....lol)
My chassis number is: 7222346 so on the Brembo site I've been looking at 7026206-> :read:

Front Brakes
Brembo Discs (Opie eBay store don't seem to do either of the discs I need) £85.96 (pair)
Pagid Discs £66.30 (pair) (with discount)
Brembo Pads £57.74
Pagid Pads (Brembo system which I think mine is?)£33.15 (with discount)

Rear Brakes
Brembo Discs £61.96 (pair)
Pagid Discs £63.14 (pair) (with discount)
Brembo Pads £21.95
Pagid Pads £18.83 (with discount)

Brembo total price = £227.61
Pagid total price = £181.42


It's pretty silly the difference in your Brembo pads (front) compared to mine given the cars are only 2 years apart and you've got 60 more horses pulling your 159...

Will I notice £46.19 of difference (baring in mind I have to get them fitted which I've been quoted in the region of £40)
 

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looks as if you've got everything about right...

<£230 for Brembos all round sounds like good deal to me (i have a recipt for all round Alfa parts +fitting, from a specialist, on mine totalling £480). Having said that, I've never been disappointed by the quality of Pagid parts and they always seem to fit and perform well when i have used them. For me, Pagid are 'middle of the road'... not mind blowingly great but not ditch-findingly bad either.

With such a small difference in price, its going to be down to your personal choice. I can harp on about how good i think/know how good or parts are but if you feel you cant justify the extra £50 then you will always begrudge spending it.

Also ask yourself if the price is the only thing making the decision hard for you. For instance if you didnt have the discount on the Pagid items, would you still pick them over the Brembo parts.

I learned the hard way a few years ago about cheaping out on parts (replaced lower wishbones and ARB drop links and did it again before 5000miles) and now wont buy anything less than OEM level kit.

I've probably not helped at all and made your decision even harder :depressed: just my 2p
 

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looks as if you've got everything about right...

<£230 for Brembos all round sounds like good deal to me (i have a recipt for all round Alfa parts +fitting, from a specialist, on mine totalling £480). Having said that, I've never been disappointed by the quality of Pagid parts and they always seem to fit and perform well when i have used them. For me, Pagid are 'middle of the road'... not mind blowingly great but not ditch-findingly bad either.

With such a small difference in price, its going to be down to your personal choice. I can harp on about how good i think/know how good or parts are but if you feel you cant justify the extra £50 then you will always begrudge spending it.

Also ask yourself if the price is the only thing making the decision hard for you. For instance if you didnt have the discount on the Pagid items, would you still pick them over the Brembo parts.

I learned the hard way a few years ago about cheaping out on parts (replaced lower wishbones and ARB drop links and did it again before 5000miles) and now wont buy anything less than OEM level kit.

I've probably not helped at all and made your decision even harder :depressed: just my 2p
So clearly I wasn't thinking yesterday, just went back on to ECP this morning and noticed they stock Brembo discs and pads, annoyingly they don't actually tell you the part number in the same way it did on the website you sent me to to find out what I need, asking someone on the their chat came back and told me I need these bits:

Front Brakes
Brembo Discs
Brembo Pads

Rear Brakes
Brembo Discs
Brembo Pads

Total for these with the 15% discount code = £184.89
so that's only a few quid difference from the Pagid :thumbup:

Anyone want to hazard a guess if these are in fact the right parts (or where / how I can find out)?
 

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Front
10451086A > 09.9363.21
10151041A > P23 129

Rear
10451088A > 08.9364.21
10151036A > P23 109

all seems to be about right! double check part numbers on boxes when collecting though

*edit* you're actually getting the .21 discs (the painted ones) too... cant be bad!
 
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