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Hi i have just bought my first alfa romeo, i went for a 156 2.0 selespeed. After 1 weeks trouble free motoring the car has developed a problem. The car starts perfect and seems fine untill i try to change up gears from first to second. The car pauses for 3-5 seconds before missing out second gear and going straight into 3rd. The car gears down spot on fron 3rd to 2nd without a problem and drives in second perfect. second gear works fine, it just wont select second when moving up from 1st gear. I dont get any warning lights or anything like that, no untoward noises it just misses 2nd.Can anyone offer any suggestions or can some 1 direct me to another post with the same problem. I have read through a post about selespeed boxes (selespeed info) and followed the link to the trouble shooting page some 1 has posted but my problem doesnt seem to be there. If anyone has any suggestions i am all ears. Thanks for taking your time to read this and i hope to hear back from some one soon.
 

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check the Battery condition, then Selespeed oil level, then run a diagnostic check with Alfadiag and a re-calibrate.... pay attention for the clutch rod pin (28mm)
 

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As Rarebear says, but also check the top of the box for oil stains or fresh oil and if the oil level has droped in the reservior but there are no signs of leaks then I'd think the backplate is leaking intoernally into the gearbox.

BUT I think your problem is related to the clutch and not the actuator.
 

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Thanks guys for your replies, i have got the car booked in at an alfa specialist for friday morning, for diog and re-cal. The selespeed oil looks a little bit low in the resevoir but not alarmingly low. I have phoned about to get some CS SPEED OIL, but finding it hard to obtail. My local afla doesnt have it in stock (manchester) so i have to drive 40 miles to buy some from another alfa specialist so booked the car in at that one so i can get the diagnostics done if its needed after buying the oil. THANKS again guys for your input, i will post again on friday and let you know how its going.
Oh while i am here is CS SPEED OIL the only oil i can use or is there another type compatible with the selespeed?
 

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I have the exact same problem with my 156 Selespeed,i know this is an old post but will take a chance and ask you,did you ever find the correct solution?
 

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Cheers thanks for that update,
now the odd bit,i have an invoice here,dated 09-09-09 for a Sleeve T/Bearing and Recond Clutches Kit that was purchased mail order from Donalds Peterborough of Peterborough,the invoice is for the sum of £215 but i am now wondering was it fitted.
 

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I have just looked through what paper work i have but unfortunately there is no invoice for work carried out,just for the items purchased.

I have since been told that this is a common fault on with this gearbox,something to do with the ECU,a recalibration may well help.The car is being looked at next Friday so hopefully i may know more then.
 

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Remember to post back when you do ;)

cap_p never did post again (his first post was in the introductions section) so I guess that Smaky must have some kind of link to whichever specialist cap_p went to :)

-Alex
 

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A quick update,it was the obvious....Actuator is knackered.
A recalibration got 2nd gear back:) but knocked out 3rd gear :rolleyes:An expensive fix is now required as the clutch may need sorting as well.......It may well have been not setting up the above Clutch kit properly that knocked out the Actuator.
 

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A quick update,it was the obvious....Actuator is knackered.
A recalibration got 2nd gear back:) but knocked out 3rd gear :rolleyes:An expensive fix is now required as the clutch may need sorting as well.......It may well have been not setting up the above Clutch kit properly that knocked out the Actuator.
The actuator will not need replacing, the clutch is questionable, but you certainly have one dodgy sensor there, still doesn't require replacement of the actuator.
 

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The actuator will not need replacing, the clutch is questionable, but you certainly have one dodgy sensor there, still doesn't require replacement of the actuator.
Are the sensors microswitchs or are they inductive sensors like the crank sensors???
 

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Are you sure? a very well known to this site Alfa repair company had the car yesterday and that was their conclusion....:confused:
This is not the news i wanted to hear,i need it fixed but clueless on locating the sensors.I am more than prepared to change the sensors myself if you could guide me in the right direction :).
I guess the are all attached to the actuator which is buried under the car in the most inaccessible place.
 

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The actuator will not need replacing, the clutch is questionable, but you certainly have one dodgy sensor there, still doesn't require replacement of the actuator.
Actuators do wear out!!

In most cases, it usually is a faulty sensor, accumulator or bad wiring on the actuator that is miss-diagnosed as needing a new actuator, but I have (and so would you), seen many that are worn out.
 

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Oh this is not getting me anywhere really,there is no way i can test sensors so have to take their word for it ,
I think i will take the car elsewhere to have the gearbox looked at but will not mention the other diagnosis from the Alfa company that i have visited already,saying that,the original company have done a fair bit of work already,cambelt and full service so to get the car finished i may well just get them to finish the work off,it's getting on my nerves now.
 
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