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I have just been quoted £430 for a CAMBELT and VARIATOR replaced, at a local mechanics, Using original Alfa parts.

He offered a 3 month / 30k mile failure warranty ( were he will replace the lot if the engine mucks up as a reuslt of the job).

Mangoletsi in Knutsford (cheshire) said they would do the same job for £500. only difference is that they would offer a 12 month warranty.

Same parts but is it worth £70 for the warranty ?

would anyone reccomend a main dealer alfa, over local alfa expert??
also im hoping that once the belts and variator are replaced, the performance should improve. At the moment the engine sounds like a tank when it first starts, and it struggles to get to 120mph; the book says it should crack 130mph, and get to 60 in under 9 seconds, at the mo its a little slower than that. t struggles to get to 120 !!

Will there be any differences in performance once the above work is done? I am told the the MAF has a lot to do with this, but that part looks new at a glance...but im no expert.

oh, I have a 2002 model 156 s/w 1.8ts 80k miles. (unsure of what bhp model I have, not to sure were the numbers in the engine bay are to find out)
 

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Providing the mechanic has the right tools for the job, including the right camlocks, they should be fine.

Make sure they are also replacing the aux belt & tensioners, it needs to come off to get to the cambelt anyway.
 

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David is our resident expert. I would follow his advice. :thumbs:
 

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What brand MAF is fitted? I'm led to believe that anything other than an OEM Bosch unit will not be satisfactory.
Also, I do think that a worn variator would lose a bit of performance/fuel economy also, and would account for the noise on startup. (that said, I am rather a newbie to these engines so don't take my word as gospel! :) )

I've heard good things about Mangoletsi, although the comments all related to FIAT cars...
 

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yes.. i popped in and spoke to mangoletsi....very helpfull ... the £500 quote was with a 10% discount as i haggled a bit !!!!

The only thing was i am from liverpool and i was in cheshire on other matters the bloody garage is literally in the middle of no were !! and they couldnt guarantee a courtesy car, so i woudl have been stuck there all day while they did the job.

anyway, while im on... How can i check to make sure that the both belts have been changed ?? Would it be worth me noting the belt numbers or are they all the same... and are both belts on the same side of the engine, i can see a belt when i look into the engine bay, but dont know which is which !!
 

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oh it is a bosch maf
 

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hat about the performance.... what are othe alfas like ... of this type !!

156 s/w 1.8ts is 0-60 in 11secs... and 120 top end the max or should i be getting more ??
 

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book says it should crack 130mph, and get to 60 in under 9 seconds, at the mo its a little slower than that. t struggles to get to 120 !!...
oh, I have a 2002 model 156 s/w 1.8ts 80k miles.
It will be the 140bhp engine.
Not sure what book you are looking at, but the book value for a 2002 1.8TS SW 0-62 (100km/h) is 9.7s with a max of 129mph (208km/h)
 

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156 s/w 1.8ts is 0-60 in 11secs... and 120 top end the max or should i be getting more ??
If those are figures taken from the speedo, the true figures might be worse :(. Check against a GPS unit.

My local Alfa specialist does a the Alfa 1.8 cam change for £230 inc VAT (plus £100 for variator?). You might be able to get them to price match? :)
 
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