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Ah true yes, I would need a second socket if they were different sizes. I hadnt realised that because our other motor is an old mud plugger in which I just carry a cross brace with different size sockets on, but I dony want to have to start carrying more in the Alfa!

I take your point, there's little point in securing the alloys, they're not in amazing condition and I wouldn't have thought they were worth nicking. So the next question is....does anyone have 4 ordinary wheel nuts for sale?

Once you know which size you need, let me know and I should be able to find either a set of ordinary or a set of lockbolts, whichever you want.