[dunhookin]

Guys,

Can anyone shed some light/insight/make suggestions on my 156 sounding it's alarm constantly please? It's very ummm loud and furrowing the brows of my neighbours!

It's a 2003 156 2.0 JTS. The car has been having a sabbatical and sat unused for about 3 months during which time I fitted a new radiator. The battery had gone flat, re-connecting the battery again after charging gives a beep sound straight away, then another beep sound maybe 20 or so seconds later. No alarm at this point.

Need to say that the key fob has no battery, the retaining clip has long since broken - but the car has always functioned fine operating the door with the key.

Ok back to the 'fun'. Unlocking the car now sets off the alarm, disconnecting the battery shuts it up. Tried re-connecting tha battery with the doors unlocked and the driver's door open - no alarm initially, put the key in the ignition and turn it - alarm goes off. The engine will start though with the alarm sounding.

I've looked around the forum and seen mention of removing fuse 12 - which is my next move. Problem - car came without a handbook, so I've no idea which fuse is number 12!!
Frustrating - I've located the fuse box behind the panel under the dash adjacent to the driver's door, but there is no numbering sequence that I can see.

Can someone/anyone shed some light please? I'm very keen to get my Alfa back on the road - been too long! Any suggestions/advice/insights gratefully received.

Regards

Andy H

 

[Guest]

Fuse 12 (alarm) is under the dash bottom line of fuses 2nd one from the left 10amp
However.... That is also the same fuse for sound system/ car interior lights/ instrument cluster too!

You really need the key fob working to turn it off properly mate..
UK derived cars didn't come with the emercency alarm cut off with a master key that simply slotted and turned above the fuse box!

Maybe someone has the reset proceedure to hand

 

[dunhookin]

alarm snag still there - only different..?

Grahameo, thanks very much for your prompt reply and advice.

Well I removed fuse 12, fired the beast up......and the alarm sounded after maybe 20 or so seconds - ish, not long anyway. Only this time the alarm sounded different to when it has fuse 12 intact....?

Stopping the engine shut the alarm up. Tried this 3 times, same every time. Any ideas/suggestions anyone? - very gratefully received.

Thinking that I'm going to have to stump up for a new key and fob to sort this. Is there an alternative source other than Alfa dealer anybody know? And I suspect there'll be a procedure to make the new fob talk to the car...? Such BH joy - beats trudging round garden centres though!

Regards Andy

 

[Guest]

Hi Andy... I hope you have this all sorted , If not then you could try this proceedure to reset the audable alarm system manually:

Courtesy of Gazza82 a member on here who has his own dedicated website:



Turn the ignition key to the ON position

Open the bonnet (front) lid

Turn the ignition key from ON (mar) to OFF (stop)

Within 15 seconds, press the bonnet lid button 7 times in quick succession. This manoeuvre should be carried out in less than 10 seconds. The last time the button is pressed, keep it pressed.

5 brief auditory signals (5 in 2 seconds) followed by one long one (lasting 2 seconds) indicate the entry into the operating mode programming

Release the bonnet lid button

Within the next 10 seconds, press and release the button a number of times equivalent to that desired country identification number (2 times for UK). Each time the button is pressed there will be an auditory confirmation signal

Wait for 10 seconds, an auditory signal lasting 1 second will indicate the exit from the programming mode system

Hope it helps:thumbs:

 

[dunhookin]

Thanks Grahameo...

...you're a star.Really appreciate this great information and have just tried to act on it - and hit a snag immediately.

Feeling like a donut who doesn't know his car well enough....I can't locate the bonnet lid button...!

I was expecting to see a sping loaded contact switch somewhere on the corners of the slam panel, or another readily apparant prominent location. I looked several times - but saw nothing that could be a bonnet lid button...?!

Frustrated - as I thought I was almost there. Please could you put me out of my misery and tell me how to identify the bonnet lid button? Many thanks

Warm regards

Andy

 

[Guest]

...you're a star.Really appreciate this great information and have just tried to act on it - and hit a snag immediately.

Feeling like a donut who doesn't know his car well enough....I can't locate the bonnet lid button...!

I was expecting to see a sping loaded contact switch somewhere on the corners of the slam panel, or another readily apparant prominent location. I looked several times - but saw nothing that could be a bonnet lid button...?!

Frustrated - as I thought I was almost there. Please could you put me out of my misery and tell me how to identify the bonnet lid button? Many thanks

Warm regards

Andy

:cheese: I can see how it could confuse anyone mate. Bloody Alfa's never simple are they:lol:

Open your bonnet look at the catch release mechanism.

On the left hand side there is a little black square box with a couple of wires going to it.....
That's the switch mate... You will see a little metal spring clip attached to the front of the box facing the front of the car.... Thats the button you press:thumbs:

It can be a little fiddly to get your fingers in but IIRC you can somehow unclip the box and leave it on top to operate the button

 

[dunhookin]

Tried alarm re-set procedure - but......

............the car didn't respond as I expected. This alarm snag is turning into a saga - just wondering/fervently hoping whether anyone can make any suggestions?

Grahameo has been/is being supremely helpful, thanks mate you're a top man - but the car didn't respond to the alarm re-set as I'd hoped. After pressing the bonnet lid switch 7 times in quick succession as per the instructions (and holding it at the 7th press) the car didn't sound the 5 brief auditory signals that would allow entry into the operating mode.........?

Repeated the procedure about 3 or 4 times - couldn't get it to make the 5 signals..? Trying to kid the car that all was ok and start the engine just sounded the alarm.

Grahameo - please could you clarify the positioning of the ignition key for this process? My understanding is with battery connected, turn the key to ignition on - and then back to off? Then begin the bonnet lid button pressing process? And I assume that fuse 12 should be fitted for this?

When connecting the battery, the alarm makes 2 x single auditory signals of perhaps a 1 second duration each, these signals are about 5 seconds apart. I assume that these are the alarm setting itself. Any movement of the ignition key after these signals sounds the alarm.

I'm stumped and continuing to annoy/disturb my neighbours every time I try to sort this very frustrating and increasingly annoying problem. Any suggestions please guys - very gratefully received.

Thanks and regards

Andy

 

[Guest]

That was my understanding of the instructions too mate.... Sorry Andy, Im all out of further ideas mate.... Unless someone else has any other suggestions I would recommend a trip to a reputable auto electrician... There are many around who only charge when they find the issue and quote you first... If they are worth there salt, they will know pretty much right away what it is just by your description of what's going on.... But... here's the crunch, they will probably say get a new fob.

Only other alternative is to invest in a key fob, bite the bullet and get it programmed and try that first... Sorry
I'm sure if you PM one of the admins they wiil be able to help you with where to get a cheap fob from and who programs them surely someone on the forums does it.

 

[Guest]

Here you go Andy, Try Chris
http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/members/chris.html

 

[Chris]

Connecting up the battery will set the alarm.

If you have removed the fuse then the alarm will be running on battery. Remove the wheelarch liner (before you ask - the one on the noisy side ) and you can get to the alarm unit and remove the rear panel and the battery.

No need to get a new key fob when your old one still starts the car, simply get the remote fixed by me as its about 10% of the cost!

PM sent...

 

[dunhookin]

Hey Chris,

Your key repair service is what I need! I have a 2 button black fob which I'd like to send you immediately. Please could you advise of the address to send it to? - thank you.

Please note that my phone number is 07786 512499 if you prefer to ring me with your address or text it. Also, it may come in handy if you encounter a problem with my key and need to discuss.

Thanks also for your technical advice on how to deal with the alarm. When I have the key fob operatingly properly I'm sure th alarm system will then operate as it should. If there any procedural requirements post key fob repair that i should be aware of - please could you advise?

Many thanks and kind regards

Andy

 

[Chris]

Hi Andy,

I'll be happy to help. Contact me via private message please.

Its probably a good ideas to take your number of an open forum too, you never know what someone might do with it

 

[trashbat]

Some questions:

* When all of this is happening, what is the red LED on the central vent panel doing? Is it flashing and if so what pattern?

* When the alarm goes off, what happens if you turn the key to MAR? This should turn it off.

* What actually broke on your key? The battery holder insert comes out so you might not need to send the whole thing to Chris - just get a new insert.

 

[Chris]

Hi Andy,

I'll be happy to help. Contact me via private message please.

... and delete some message from your PM box so I can reply to you

 

[Chris]

Some questions:

* When all of this is happening, what is the red LED on the central vent panel doing? Is it flashing and if so what pattern?

* When the alarm goes off, what happens if you turn the key to MAR? This should turn it off.

Not on the older 2-button keys types

* What actually broke on your key? The battery holder insert comes out so you might not need to send the whole thing to Chris - just get a new insert.

Yeah tried asking that but no reply yet.

 

[trashbat]

Not on the older 2-button keys types

Never tried it myself but read through the entire manual the other day :cheese: and that's what it said.

 

[dunhookin]

Hi Chris,

I left you an updated message at about 10pm last night. The forum only allows 5 messages total storage - so soon fills up. Feel free to buzz me when you have a moment.

Thanks again for your help and patience, appreciate it.

Regards

Andy

 

[Chris]

Never tried it myself but read through the entire manual the other day :cheese: and that's what it said.

Meh, maybe so then, I can only work on what people feed back to me, and they haven't managed to get it to work except on 3-button keys. Accurate feedback from people isn't easy to get most of the time so I'm probably wrong

BTW - you have too much time on your hands!

 

[Chris]

Hi Chris,

I left you an updated message at about 10pm last night. The forum only allows 5 messages total storage - so soon fills up. Feel free to buzz me when you have a moment.

Thanks again for your help and patience, appreciate it.

Regards

Andy

Yeah, sent you a reply message about 10.05 and this morning! :lol:

 

[trashbat]

Meh, maybe so then, I can only work on what people feed back to me, and they haven't managed to get it to work except on 3-button keys. Accurate feedback from people isn't easy to get most of the time so I'm probably wrong

BTW - you have too much time on your hands!

I know!