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I think my cam belt may have snapped on my 156 Sports wagon 2.0 JTS on an 02 plate.

Was pulling up at a set off lights (clutch down), when the fault alarm went off and looking at the screen said something about low oil pressure but it was not up on the screen long enough so i'm not 100% sure, and by the time i had stopped the engine had cut off, so i tried to start the car, it just spins the engine, it will not fire up.

Now i'm guessing the cambelt has snapped or slipped, and my question is now how much will it cost (roughly) to have the engine re-built or is my almost 1 year of driving an alfa (with over £1000 of parts and labour on all sorts of problems) coming to an end (and car better off at a scarp-yard).

My advice, if you buy an alfa from a trader who tells you the cambelt was done at 72000 miles, don't believe them without hard proof.
 

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No good with spanners, this would have to be done at a garage.

Was looking at autolusso website and saw that a 2.0 JTS engine plus fitting was about £1800:cry:.

Maybe i'll just buy an older 156 2.0 T-Spark for about £1000 and dump the JTS.
 

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No good with spanners, this would have to be done at a garage.

Was looking at autolusso website and saw that a 2.0 JTS engine plus fitting was about £1800:cry:.

Maybe i'll just buy an older 156 2.0 T-Spark for about £1000 and dump the JTS.
We can now do it for £1,500, I know it’s a lot but I have seen so many people trying to sort it for less than coming in for a rebuilt engine after spending £500 - £1,000, at least if you go for a properly rebuilt engine you know where you are with the car.

We do sell secondhand engines but I advise everyone that buys one that they are better off with a rebuilt one with a proper no quibble guarantee, pays your money take your choice
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dont jump the gun you dont know whats gone wrong and you are looking at spending £1500 is there an independant garage or a smaky near you to take a look
 

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If the belts snapped and he's tried to start it thats pretty much certainly 16 vavles, probably a few valve guides, the possibility of marked pistons, big ends would want doing too to be on the safe side, then fresh oil & coolant, timing belt kit, variator, aux belt kit, head gasket set (plus a skim?).. Roll in labour at £40 an hour or so at a local non-specialist garage, plus the cam locks & variator tool, thats got to be £1500 if not more to be honest.. I think a recon engine makes sense, if the car is known to be a good one besides the knackered engine. If the suspension, brakes, exhaust, tyres & bodywork are all shot, then its a scrap job. If a few of these need attention as well then its borderline.

One other thing to be aware of is that if the engine is coming out, its definitely worth doing a new clutch for the price of the kit, as there isn't going to be a better time..
 

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Of course, being optimistic, it could be that the engine cutting out was just the ever-popular crank sensor failing.......

Tho anyone who knows what they are listening for will be able to identify the sound of a belt failure..........
 

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Removed the top plastic cover and pulled at the top cam belt cover (undone one screw) and saw the belt still there, got some one to turn the key and the 2 top camshaft gear are not spinning with the crank, so it is the cam belt failed somewhere.

nearest alfa/fiat indy garage has quoted £3500 for a recon engine + fit, and thay don't do re-builds.

The car itself has only just past mot, its had new wiper motor, new windsreen, 2 new front disks and pads all round, new maf, and 4 new tyres.

So it looks like i'm gonna lose out on a lot of money, i think i'll just get an older 156 2.0 T-Spark and hope my wheels and tyres fit.
 

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Are you handy enough to get the cam belt cover off completely. You need to be certain that the belts gone before you start to order a replacement engine, especially with that kinda quote.

The belts unlikely to still be in situ across the top cams if its snapped.

Where are you?
 

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£3500 is just plain ridiculous. How much would you sell the car for as it stands?
 

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have'nt thought about selling as is, yet.

Planning on buying a cheap run around car then having a go at stripping the engine down myself (that should be fun).

And yes around here (london, near heathrow airport) there is not a lot of garage's that will touch an alfa, so the only indy garage (which is in staines)
is Thorobred Cars, who quoted £3500 for a recon engine + fitting.
 

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You'd be mental to pay £3500, but DIY is probably not the best thing to try unless you have rebuilt engines before.. Personally, I'd get it recovered to one of the indies that do recon engines for £1500 (yes, thats supplied, fitted and warranteed!). AutoLusso have a tow truck & trailer, I'm sure they'll pick up and maybe even deliver it back for you at good rates if thats what you need. They could probably get it turned over in a few days too, they had shelves full of freshly rebuilt engines when I was last there. Gotta be worth a phone call at least. :)
 

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I would love to be able to take/get my car to autolusso and have a re-built engine fitted, but its the cost to get my car there from here, i'd be looking at another £200 to £500 for someone to take car to autolusso, at least i could drive it back when its done.
 

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A few addresses and phone numbers for you to try if none of our resident stars can help you.
Gonnella Brothers Catford Hill London SE6 4NU 02086900060
Sunnyside Garage Chadwell Heath Industrial Park , Kemp Road , Dagenham 0208 5993484
DTR Sports Cars Coulsdon Surrey, CR5 2HS 02086455050 - this one offers cambelt , tensioners, bearings for £279 all inclusive with same day service which is a good price for an Alfa specialist. They are all in the AROC monthly so worth phoning up for a quote. I have never used them as they are all down your end of the country. I just think if it were me I would give them a call before making any decisions.
This is one used and recommended by people on here but I have no idea how far they are from you.
Roberts Aerospace & Automotive
Whitehaven Workshop
Trampers Lane
Fareham
Hants
PO17 6BP
Tel: 01329 834016

Hope this is of some help.
 

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I would love to be able to take/get my car to autolusso and have a re-built engine fitted, but its the cost to get my car there from here, i'd be looking at another £200 to £500 for someone to take car to autolusso, at least i could drive it back when its done.
Try L&M up in High Wycombe ... 01494 538899 ... I'm sure they have their own recovery truck now. Not sure how much they've charge though. They often have an engine in the rebuild phase.
 
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