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Keith's question of the day

I have decided to post a daily question to challenge and inform.

Question for today - does the Great Wall Wingle 5 pick-up use mk5 Golf headlights?
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They do look similar.
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The lens periphery is different on the grille side; straight as opposed to rounded. The top of the indicator chamber is different too but the optics of the reflectors are probably copied as this is the expensive bit to develop.
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Surely the only question about the Great Wall Wingle 5 is "why?".
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Surely the only question about the Great Wall Wingle 5 is "why?".
Looking at the Wingle, surely the question is why on earth they stopped at using just the Golf's headlights, when they would have been better off using all of its parts. :-)
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Do you mean the one that looks like a pick-up?
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I don't care about the headlights, just look at the stunning interior!

Wingle 5 salesmen: just take my money!!!!
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Not sure the pretty interior offsets the fact you may have to ask someone if they want a ride in your Great Wingle.
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We used to mock Japanese and then Korean
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One day all cars will come from Chy-na.
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One day all cars will come from Chy-na.
I think that's a given. 30 years ago all they produced was tat from elsewhere in CKD form. We may mock the Wingle but on casual inspection (walking past with the dog) it looks on a par with other such vehicles.
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The 5 is so yesterday.
https://www.carnewschina.com/2013/04...uck-for-china/

However so is the 6.
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The 5 is so yesterday.
https://www.carnewschina.com/2013/04...uck-for-china/

However so is the 6.
Nice. 180,000 yuan is apparently about £20,000. A similar spec Hi Lux is £35,000.
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Nice. 180,000 yuan is apparently about £20,000. A similar spec Hi Lux is £35,000.
A couple of Joanne's offspring have owned/own Chinese bikes. If they are at all anything to go by, then you buy the Hi-Lux.
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Today's question:

Would you still eat meat if you had to kill the animals yourself?

If you're a vegetarian who wears leather shoes, would you still wear leather shoes......

If you don't eat meat and have nothing whatsoever to do with dead animals, I'll think of a question to include you tomorrow.
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Today's question:

Would you still eat meat if you had to kill the animals yourself?

If you're a vegetarian who wears leather shoes, would you still wear leather shoes......

If you don't eat meat and have nothing whatsoever to do with dead animals, I'll think of a question to include you tomorrow.
I'm a vegetarian with leather shoes, if I could get decent shoes that weren't leather I would (are animals killed for leather, or is it mainly a by-product of the meat and dairy industries?)

If my survival depended on killing animals to eat or clothe myself I would, otherwise no.
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Yep. I've never had to kill a land based animal for my own consumption but if I had to then I would. I've killed fish so topping a pig would be an extension of that. I would however want to have the most humane means at my disposal for doing the deed. I can't see myself rustling up some burgers after going at cow with a spoon.
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Yep. I've never had to kill a land based animal for my own consumption but if I had to then I would. I've killed fish so topping a pig would be an extension of that. I would however want to have the most humane means at my disposal for doing the deed. I can't see myself rustling up some burgers after going at cow with a spoon.
Should be a law against that.
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I'm a vegetarian with leather shoes, if I could get decent shoes that weren't leather I would (are animals killed for leather, or is it mainly a by-product of the meat and dairy industries?)

If my survival depended on killing animals to eat or clothe myself I would, otherwise no.
The most “luxurious” leather is supplied by new-born veal calves and sometimes even unborn calves taken prematurely from their mother’s wombs. So it's not a by-product in these circumstances.

Leather apparently accounts for approximately 10% of the animal’s total value, making it the most valuable part, pound for pound. So it's not a by-product here either.

And if you want shoes that will calm your conscience there are companies out there that do make "Vegetarian footwear"
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The most “luxurious” leather is supplied by new-born veal calves and sometimes even unborn calves taken prematurely from their mother’s wombs. So it's not a by-product in these circumstances.

Leather apparently accounts for approximately 10% of the animal’s total value, making it the most valuable part, pound for pound. So it's not a by-product here either.

And if you want shoes that will calm your conscience there are companies out there that do make "Vegetarian footwear"
Yes, following my previous post, I did a quick internet search and found that 'decent' non -leather shoes are now quite easily available
They certainly weren't in the 80s when I went veggie, and tbh not something I've given enough thought to since.
My next and subsequent footwear purchases will bear this in mind.







(don't mention the leather seats in the 156 )
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The most ?luxurious? leather is supplied by new-born veal calves and sometimes even unborn calves taken prematurely from their mother?s wombs. So it's not a by-product in these circumstances.

Leather apparently accounts for approximately 10% of the animal?s total value, making it the most valuable part, pound for pound. So it's not a by-product here either.

And if you want shoes that will calm your conscience there are companies out there that do make "Vegetarian footwear"
Yes, following my previous post, I did a quick internet search and found that 'decent' non -leather shoes are now quite easily available https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/image...ies/thumbs.gif
They certainly weren't in the 80s when I went veggie, and tbh not something I've given enough thought to since.
My next and subsequent footwear purchases will bear this in mind.







(don't mention the leather seats in the 156 https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/images/smilies/eek.gif https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/image...mbarrassed.gif )
What convinced you to become a veggie?
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Today's question:

Would you still eat meat if you had to kill the animals yourself?
Probably. I've shot pigeon & pheasant and plucked, gutted and prepared/eaten them. I probably ain't gonna strangle a cow any day soon, not least because Mrs Pat would go bat-sheet about the mess, but I'm not one of those "I love chicken but I can't stand the smell/feel/sight of raw meat" types.

Where has Evel got to these days, he worked as a butcher for a while, didn't he?
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What convinced you to become a veggie?
Complicated, and not completely at all logical reasoning.

My earliest memory of any veggie tendency is at primary school infants (about 6 years old)
watching the big old B&W tv with a room full of my contemporaries. Programmes for schools, footage of lots of very cute yellow chicks running around, prompting universal oohs and ahhs and expressions of love from my class mates. My favourite dinner was roast chicken, and at this moment the connection I made was quite disturbing.

Occasional slight guilt at eating meat recurred over the next 15 years or so, then in the early to mid 80s there was a lot of bad publicity around industrial farming practices (e.g. hormones and antibiotics being fed to livestock). I decided to try a vegetarian diet, and I'm still trying.

I don't preach to others, and reserve the right to change my mind.
But from personal experience I think animals are intelligent, sentient beings, and farming them for food in the way we do seems barbaric - especially as it's not only completely unnecessary but positively inefficient and harmful to the planet.
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...'decent' non -leather shoes are now quite easily available
They certainly weren't in the 80s...
Chris, have I read that right - have you not bought any shoes since the 1980s? :-)))
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