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Hmmm 147 with a 2.4JTD....Is it simple?

As the title says how simple is it to drop a 2.4JTD on a 147? Other than the engine and gearbox what else is needed. Does the ecu needs to be change or reprogram, as well as changing dampers and spring.

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why would you wanna put a 2.4 into a 147 surely it would handle like a pig
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True but I got my GT V6 as my toy .

Im only thinking aloud as I'm doing a lot of miles and seeing if its an option.
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Is it already a 1.9 or is it a twinnie?
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twinnie,I should have said before
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ok cool. i would think it would need 156 spings and shocks wiring loom and new ecu as well as the engine and gearbox of course the driveshafts. and a big shoe horn to tease it into place
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Hmm no idea on the complexity, surely you'd need to alter fuel tank, all fuel lines and filters? And maybe exhaust? Be a lot simpler/cheaper to buy a 1.9 as standard? and if not then a 1.9 transplant would be better than a 2.4?
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looks like others have been talking about this in the past


https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/tunin...n-a-147-a.html
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i forgot about the exhaust and intercooler too. so its a pritty big job. you would be better off welding 156 font end to a 147 and changing the bumper and panels over
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Sounds like a serious surgery. The simple solution is to sell my 147 but I don't think I can
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then buy a cheap 156 jtd plenty going for a grand
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Yeah plenty of 147 1.9s knocking about and the 0-60 is very similar if not better! Knock around for about 1200-2000 guy round the corner has a facelift 156 on sale for 1250, I'm tempted by it hah
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Sounds like a plan go for it , you could have 250 bhp easy.

Ofc it'll be cheaper and easier to just buy a 147/156 diesel.

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Quoted from a sister thread, there is a 1.9 16v 147 that has been mapped producing 260bhp! Best bet IMO I to get one and tinker with it if you really wanted, the lightness of the 1.9 compared to the 2.4 would be better too?
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That will need a little more than a map to see 260 hp.
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That will need a little more than a map to see 260 hp.
Map, turbo etc I presume. Click the link to the thread a few posts up, Pud237 mentioned it on the 2nd page. The point I was making the 1.9 can be nippy enough, especially compared to a twinnie!
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It uses a 159 2.4 210bhp turbocharger amongst other things, which is a big job to fit. Its a massive turbo!
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Was it kgb? Didn't he hit 300 at some point or am I getting confused?
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It was a chap from Portugal, although I think there are others not far off now. I don't know about kgb he has quite a few projects on the go at the moment..
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Zbrsk i think is his name on here.
He had 2 threads going one was with hybrid std turbo and the other switching to gtb2056, i think he ended up thinking 300 was havable on the road as he was suffering loss with lack of airflow on the r/r.
Heres a lik to last one i think
https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/tunin...-gtb2056v.html
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What did kgb hit as he's running a gtb 2260!
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Not sure he finished it?
https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/tunin...h-gtb2260.html
A gtb2260 should flow for 300 with fuelling to match
The new best for around 250hp appears to be the gtb2060 yanko is playing with now i think.
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2.4s fit 147s no problem - the 147/156/GT are different versions of the same car and they didnt "weld in a 156 front end" to the 147GTA to make the V6 fit, the engine bays of 147s, 156s and GTs are the same size.

The problem would be finding a body computer that would allow a 2.4 in a 147, but there must be a way round it as Alfa raced some 147 2.4s a few years back.

It wouldnt "handle like a pig" at all - 156 GTAs with the 3.2 Busso are heavier than 156 2.4s, it would handle similar to a 147 GTA.

Been talked about before many times and would be a great conversion to do, especially if it was a tuned 20V - youre looking at almost 300bhp/450lbs/ft, those 5 cylinders sound great.

A highly tuned 1.9 like Zbrsk's would prob offer 98% of the performance for lighter weight tho . . . just wouldnt sound as good or be as special.
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Not sure he finished it?
https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/tunin...h-gtb2260.html
A gtb2260 should flow for 300 with fuelling to match
The new best for around 250hp appears to be the gtb2060 yanko is playing with now i think.

Yeah hes still playing with that
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