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Novitec turbo TS- Any good?

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I'm thinking about buying a 156 2.0 TS Novitec Turbo from 2000 with 190.000 km. on the clock.

My question is if anyone has had or tried a TS with the Novitec kit? How's the reliability and how does it behave? I have a semi-stock 2.0 TS now and I would like a bit more punch. Unfortunately I don't have the money for a GTA. They're a lot more expensive here in Denmark.

Do you happen to know how much weight the kit adds? Is it a lot. Just thinking handling wise.

Hope you guys can guide me in the right direction
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Short answer, no. Long answer, oh hell no. Atrocious build quality, low quality parts, HORRENDOUS consumption, bad conversion in general, do yourself a favour and stay away.
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Turbo Kits generally add about 15kg and can generate 3L power + with stock internals.

There are turbo conversions running on TS motors that lasts very well.

Spresv comment seems very strong (and I respect opinions), but if we all listen to the first strong "no" comment, we would not be driving Alfa's, or VW's or BMW's or....

I suggest getting a bit more info on the doings of this specific car - how long the conversion has been running, any issues, how often the car is getting serviced - a converted car needs more frequent servicing that OEM.
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A turbo conversion should work pretty well on a twin spark engine. Just not the novitec one, it's crap.
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Spresv comment seems very strong (and I respect opinions), but if we all listen to the first strong "no" comment, we would not be driving Alfa's, or VW's or BMW's or....
Let me just point out that my current gtv was novitec converted when i bought it (low mileage as well), so my comments come first hand and are about the novitec conversion and not alfas in general.
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Any details, what the novitec turbo kit consists of?
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manifold
schwitzer turbo
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M2.10.4 ecu to fit in passenge compartement
very crappy wiring loom between m1.5.5 connectors and m2.10.4 ecu (you bin the original m1.5.5)
Older type trottlebody , gascable, pedal.
Bigger injectors.
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The kit is the standard Novitec turbo kit with 220 hp. The kit has driven around 150.000 km. The owner has never changed turbo etc. He has changed the clutch twice. Who else has made turbo kits for the TS?
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Who else has made turbo kits for the TS?
Simple: Autodelta.
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Which i hear were much much worse than the novitec ones.
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i've seen some autodelta compressor kits on 159 , which really are crap.
They fitted the maf sensor between intercooler and trottlebody! So its under pressure!

I also have a gt 3.2 novitec compressor at work which was build pretty good , but has a ****ty ( and now broken) second ecu.
After I remove the second ecu en remove al the extra wiring , we'll upgrade the stock injectors to 440cc ones and give it a proper remap.


Autodelta= crappy hardware, decent software
Novitec=crappy software (or ancient ecu's) , decent hardware

If you would like a nice turbo setup on your car , you would have to build it yourself!

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Well, draw through/boost through - both positioning strategies should be possible according to the BOSCH. I'm not about the MAF lifetime now, but advantage of the second one is, that you have real boost temperature readings + you can easily put BOV after turbo/compressor without messing ECU with false air reading + it provides faster response. It can be often seen on american conversions.
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Ooeh allerd 3.2 with compressor?!
Tell me more, how much power?
Are you guys going to sell?
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300hp at 6000 rpm, after that afr was to lean.
I'll swap 340cc for 440cc injectors so it should do about 350hp at 7000rpm.
Not for sale yet, it's Dennis' toy car.
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here is a pic of the brera 3.2 autodelta compressor I talked about.
It just doesn't look right to me , even though it is al lot better then the 2.2 kit which had even smaller piping
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