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Just bought an '06 159 JTDM 2.4 and, having read a few reviews (and averaged 37mpg on the carefully driven 150 mile trip home from buying it!) I think a remap/DPF removal is in order.

I live near Bournemouth but have folks in Banbury and have seen various comments re Angel and AHM.

It looks like Angel charge around £400 and AHM around £600? Not too sure on the difference - is it that AHM replace the DPF with a bypass pipe and Angel remove the innards?

Hope you can help.

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Can not comment on the difference between the two companies but can recommend AHM for a remap having used them - great service and offered a choice of map to suit my preference.
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I pretty sure AHM actually have a rolling road. Angel Tuning just have a van.
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I used Angel three or four times and they did me proud. Lots of good reviews of both companies to be fair.
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My 2.4 Brera is going in to Angel on Monday for a full Fast Road pack (Remap, Eibach springs, uprated brakes etc). Once I've got it back I'll do a write-up on here.

So far their service has been excellent. They couldn't have been more helpful.

Incidentally Artermis is wrong, if you take it to Banbury they do the full rolling road.
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My 2.4 Brera is going in to Angel on Monday for a full Fast Road pack (Remap, Eibach springs, uprated brakes etc). Once I've got it back I'll do a write-up on here.

So far their service has been excellent. They couldn't have been more helpful.

Incidentally Artermis is wrong, if you take it to Banbury they do the full rolling road.
Sounds great!

Do Angel replace the DPF or just remove the innards?
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Sounds great!

Do Angel replace the DPF or just remove the innards?
No idea!
I'll tell you that on Monday
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You (as you well know) pay for what you get; £400 you get something, £600 you get years of development, skill, knowledge, people who have forgotten more than some will ever know, and a much better map package..
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I'll tell you that on Monday
How did it go spudulike?
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Nothing wrong with either but we recommend keeping the DPF and EGR, if the car is running correctly these work well, in my opinion remapping one of these cars in the short term give good power benefit and everything seams great but it put more and unnecessary strain on clutch, flywheel, drive shafts, turbo etc

There is good money to be made out of remapping but I am not a fan as we see all the consequential damage in the following years (in fact money for money for old rope)

I know this in not everyone's thinking

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Nothing wrong with either but we recommend keeping the DPF and EGR, if the car is running correctly these work well, in my opinion remapping one of these cars in the short term give good power benefit and everything seams great but it put more and unnecessary strain on clutch, flywheel, drive shafts, turbo etc

There is good money to be made out of remapping but I am not a fan as we see all the consequential damage in the following years (in fact money for money for old rope)

I know this in not everyone's thinking

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Well that all depends on what you want in life. You can stay in bed all day if you are scared of risk. This thread is about best re-mapping but as always the doom mongers are out. Do Autolusso offer de-tuning for the very timid Alfa owners?
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Well that all depends on what you want in life. You can stay in bed all day if you are scared of risk. This thread is about best re-mapping but as always the doom mongers are out. Do Autolusso offer de-tuning for the very timid Alfa owners?
We can do anything, we have the ability to remap and can do DPF and EGR removal but it is not always the best idea if our customer is looking for long term reliability. I advise my customers now today as we will be looking after the car for years to come

We have rolling road facility which we mainly use for heavy petrol engine modification

I know not everyone was going to agree with me, but then who spends more time around Alfa's every day?

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How did it go spudulike?
1 word- AWESOME

The remap has made the Brera an absolute giant killer! Initial sluggishness is gone and it rips away above 2000rpm like nothing else.

I had a few teething problems cos my Brera is a bit long in the tooth (the increased pressure caused the pressure sensor to fail) but they sorted everything out quickly with no additional cost to me.

I'm very pleased. I've got the drive down to Goodwood tomorrow to make sure it's all bedded in and when I get back I'll do a proper write up.

Incidentally- they remove the innards of the DPF rather than fit a pipe.

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We can do anything, we have the ability to remap and can do DPF and EGR removal but it is not always the best idea if our customer is looking for long term reliability. I advise my customers now today as we will be looking after the car for years to come

We have rolling road facility which we mainly use for heavy petrol engine modification

I know not everyone was going to agree with me, but then who spends more time around Alfa's every day?

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Not sure what point you are making here. First you don't recommend a re-map and then you offer one? Were you feeling left out of the initial thread?
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Can't comment on difference between the two but have used both over the years and both offer good customer service.

I opted for the AHM solution solely because I wanted to retain a useable DPF that I could reinstate should I need to. The AT option basically butchers the DPF. Don't forget the DPF could be sold on for reasonable fee look on eBay for the prices they fetch.

Not everyone wants to buy a car which appears heavily modified which removing the DPF to a lay person may perceive as. So retaining the option to refit and return to standard was paramount for me.

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Can't comment on difference between the two but have used both over the years and both offer good customer service.

I opted for the AHM solution solely because I wanted to retain a useable DPF that I could reinstate should I need to. The AT option basically butchers the DPF. Don't forget the DPF could be sold on for reasonable fee look on eBay for the prices they fetch.

Not everyone wants to buy a car which appears heavily modified which removing the DPF to a lay person may perceive as. So retaining the option to refit and return to standard was paramount for me.
Have booked mine in with AHM for exactly the same reason. Also had a bit more confidence in them when discussing the options for the remap, but all in all both seem good outfits with some good reviews coming out.
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1 word- AWESOME

The remap has made the Brera an absolute giant killer! Initial sluggishness is gone and it rips away above 2000rpm like nothing else.

I had a few teething problems cos my Brera is a bit long in the tooth (the increased pressure caused the pressure sensor to fail) but they sorted everything out quickly with no additional cost to me.

I'm very pleased. I've got the drive down to Goodwood tomorrow to make sure it's all bedded in and when I get back I'll do a proper write up.

Incidentally- they remove the innards of the DPF rather than fit a pipe.
Look forward to your thoughts after the weekend

Do they do laser alignment at all, can't see any mention on their site?
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I don't know if they do. They've got a few different garages on site that each specialise in different things so it could be that one of those might have the equipment.
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Neither, Red Dot.
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I'd go Red Dot too, AHM close second, but seems overpriced.
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And Red Dot are where?
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Enfield. Have been doing alfas for years.
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I thought they messed up tahirs GTA with a bad map?
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No that was another tuner already mentioned in this thread.
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