Any need for a remap with a new induction kit? - Alfa Romeo Forum
You are currently unregistered, register for more features.    
Tuning & Upgrades Discuss performance enhancements for your Alfa Romeo

Reply
 
Thread Tools
(Post Link) post #1 of 35 Old 10-04-12 Thread Starter
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
towney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 1,782

Member car:

BMW M135i

Any need for a remap with a new induction kit?

Hi guys

Had my mito QV mapped after I had an exhaust system fitted which made a massive difference.

However looking at getting an induction kit now and wondering if its worth the extra cost of getting a remap done after?

The air box is fairly small on the mito and is possibly restrictive. Should the induction kit just remove any restriction and free up power that way, or would it need to be remapped to adjust the new air flow / fuel mixture?

Regards

Simon
towney is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Status: Waiting for Stelvio QV
AO Platinum Member
 
OperationAlfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: United Kingdom
County: Essex
Posts: 23,452
Not really.. If you do much else to the engine, then maybe, but I really wouldn't bother if I were you.
OperationAlfa is offline  
(Post Link) post #3 of 35 Old 11-04-12 Thread Starter
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
towney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 1,782

Member car:

BMW M135i

Ok mate thanks
towney is offline  
Status: Still wrapped up in the V6...
AO Silver Member
 
James Junior's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Kingdom
County: Cheshire
Posts: 1,001
I have a K&N on the Spider and it made absolutley no difference to sound or throttle response, though of course she is a dirty derv.

Conversely, on my TT 225 turbo I fitted a panel filter and opened up the airbox and it definitely improved the throttle response low down and gave the car a slightly nicer, rumblier note under pick up. They call it a 'Wakbox' round them parts and it is par for the course for pretty much all tuned TTs.

With yours being a a petrol turbo too maybe you would get a similar result. The induction kit is cheap as chips compared to the stuff you have already had done, so might as well have a go for 70 IMO.

Luck is the residue of opportunity and design...
James Junior is offline  
Status: that time again
AO Platinum Member
 
Guili's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Africa
County: Mpumalanga
Posts: 13,815
The MiTo is a turbo car...ANY induction and Software/Remap WILL give you improved performance! I don't know why you guys over in the UK are so hesitant to modify the turbo cars? Is it because of insurance or the costs? Its not so expensive over here in SA.

Take a look at other turbo production cars from the VAG stable. Comparing the 1.4 new Polo it reacts very well to Software only...running very low 14s 1/4 miles!!!

If you already did the exhaust and got nearly 200bhp from that QV...I'd say do the software and then the intake(intake you can build yourself) and you'll end up with atleast 220-230bhp...
Guili is offline  
jwq
Status: driving Giulia Veloce AWD
Club Member
Membro Premio
 
jwq's Avatar
 
Club Member Number: 857
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Netherlands
County: Zuid Holland
Posts: 6,682
Garage
As I read it, the car has already been re-mapped, and the question was more if just making some changes to the input would warrant an additional remap....
jwq is online now  
Status: Waiting for Stelvio QV
AO Platinum Member
 
OperationAlfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: United Kingdom
County: Essex
Posts: 23,452
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwq View Post
As I read it, the car has already been re-mapped, and the question was more if just making some changes to the input would warrant an additional remap....
Correct. Hence his member car having 194BHP!
OperationAlfa is offline  
(Post Link) post #8 of 35 Old 12-04-12 Thread Starter
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
towney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 1,782

Member car:

BMW M135i

Exactly right :-) ill wait till i get a hybrid turbo for the remap i guess...
towney is offline  
Status: that time again
AO Platinum Member
 
Guili's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Africa
County: Mpumalanga
Posts: 13,815
damn I was wondering all day waiting for your reply how the hell did that MiTo get to 194bhp!!! My bad
Guili is offline  
(Post Link) post #10 of 35 Old 12-04-12 Thread Starter
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
towney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 1,782

Member car:

BMW M135i

Its ok mate no worries :-)

I dont think the qv turbo can flow much more then 195bhp i was just hoping for a bit more torque and power through the range. the sound is also a bonus

i was justwondering if anyone did have a remap before and after an induction kit and got any noticable gains.
towney is offline  
jwq
Status: driving Giulia Veloce AWD
Club Member
Membro Premio
 
jwq's Avatar
 
Club Member Number: 857
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Netherlands
County: Zuid Holland
Posts: 6,682
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by towney View Post
...
i was justwondering if anyone did have a remap before and after an induction kit and got any noticable gains.
If you manage to get more air in, I would expect the map to automatically cater for this, as it's measured by the maf, and the difference (in air flow) would never be huge anyway....

Last edited by jwq; 12-04-12 at 17:16.
jwq is online now  
(Post Link) post #12 of 35 Old 12-04-12 Thread Starter
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
towney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 1,782

Member car:

BMW M135i

ok mate thanks, just what i was thinking also
towney is offline  
Status: Still wrapped up in the V6...
AO Silver Member
 
James Junior's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Kingdom
County: Cheshire
Posts: 1,001
I know I have said it before, but your Mito is the best looking I have seen Towney.

Nice work my friend.
James Junior is offline  
(Post Link) post #14 of 35 Old 14-04-12 Thread Starter
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
towney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 1,782

Member car:

BMW M135i

Cheers james :-)

Looking at getting my rear lights tinted what do you think?
towney is offline  
Status: Still wrapped up in the V6...
AO Silver Member
 
James Junior's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Kingdom
County: Cheshire
Posts: 1,001
Personally I think tinted rear lights look pretty chav and would spoil your fine looking motor, but that is just my opinion.

If you like the idea, have you thought about taking some shots of the rear then playing around with then in photoshop to get an idea of how they might look?
James Junior is offline  
(Post Link) post #16 of 35 Old 17-04-12 Thread Starter
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
towney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 1,782

Member car:

BMW M135i

Yes you are right james, however im in the dilema that mitos are litteraly popping up all over the place and there at at least 10 i see regularly and even another black QV so i need to make mine look a bit different :-)
towney is offline  
Status: Still wrapped up in the V6...
AO Silver Member
 
James Junior's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Kingdom
County: Cheshire
Posts: 1,001
I must admit, I did see a dark metallic red 156 V6 today in Denton with smoked rears.

My initial reaction was 'meh', but as I followed him up the motorway I actually came to the conclusion that it looked pretty good!
James Junior is offline  
Status: up and down to edinburgh
AO Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: South Ayrshire
Posts: 310
Stand by for before and afters of my rear light tints...

Before:
http://tinypic.com/r/1oq83p/5

After:
http://tinypic.com/r/ei762u/5

Close up:
http://i41.tinypic.com/se0xw8.jpg

I really need some dark surrounds for my lights , think i might get my wrapping man to have a look.

Last edited by MartyMito; 18-04-12 at 08:29.
MartyMito is offline  
(Post Link) post #19 of 35 Old 18-04-12 Thread Starter
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
towney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 1,782

Member car:

BMW M135i

Yep that looks smart as **** and i agree you should go for the dark surrounds.

How much did it cost? Is it legal to tine the fronts also?
towney is offline  
Status: Still wrapped up in the V6...
AO Silver Member
 
James Junior's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Kingdom
County: Cheshire
Posts: 1,001
Looks good buddy.

If it were me I would also want to colour code the lower ones too where the high intensity rears are so everything is coded at the rear...
James Junior is offline  
Status: up and down to edinburgh
AO Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: South Ayrshire
Posts: 310
Yea im getting all that done next month aswell as the surrounds hopefully. It was 160 for all 3 back windows and the front and rear lights tinted. The front lights look pretty sweet too.

Its all legal towney as this stuff has tiny little holes all over it its said to not effect beam pattern or light output so is 100% legal and passes MOT.

Here's a pic of the front ones, best one i have im afraid...
http://s7.postimage.org/5gci8i8qj/IMG_0455.jpg

You can see the contrast from the untinted fog light though.
MartyMito is offline  
(Post Link) post #22 of 35 Old 19-04-12 Thread Starter
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
towney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 1,782

Member car:

BMW M135i

im defo getting it done now.

thanks mate appreciate it
towney is offline  
Status: Mabe just mabe this time.
AO Silver Member
 
Mito_No3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: United Kingdom
County: Stirling
Posts: 3,255

Member car:

VW Passat RLine

Quote:
Originally Posted by MartyMito View Post
Yea im getting all that done next month aswell as the surrounds hopefully. It was 160 for all 3 back windows and the front and rear lights tinted. The front lights look pretty sweet too.
Where did you get it done. Agree with Towney it looks good..
Mito_No3 is offline  
Status: up and down to edinburgh
AO Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: South Ayrshire
Posts: 310
Cheers guys i got it from a guy local here in south ayrshire...

Window Tinting Ayrshire | Car window tinting Ayrshire

That guy. Nice guy and good work. Loads of them around though just google window tinting and your area.
MartyMito is offline  
Status: Still wrapped up in the V6...
AO Silver Member
 
James Junior's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Kingdom
County: Cheshire
Posts: 1,001
Quote:
Originally Posted by MartyMito View Post
Stand by for before and afters of my rear light tints...

Before:
Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

After:
Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

Close up:
http://i41.tinypic.com/se0xw8.jpg

I really need some dark surrounds for my lights , think i might get my wrapping man to have a look.
Leave the light surrounds as they are mate in my opinion. The contrast and separation between the dark lights, the surrounds and the dark paint looks great.
James Junior is offline  
Reply

Go Back   Alfa Romeo Forum > Supported Alfa Romeo Models > Technical & Vehicle Assistance > Tuning & Upgrades

Tags
induction , kit , remap

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome