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autolusso silicone GTA intake pipe

Just received this in the post today

Cheers Dan

no more insulaton/duct tape on the intake

dont worry, the zip ties were only temporary untill i got to my local spares shop for some jublee clips
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gives a nice increase in inducton noise too,
nothing like the noise from a cone filter, much more subtle and natural sounding
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that looks really good, i defo tink i will use when the OE one breaks, which cant be too far off since it 03 reg at over 100k miles
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i can definately recomend it as a replacement,
the solution to a common problem
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put one on my watched list on ebay
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Looks good. So I had a look on ebay, and...........................£80! **** OFF!
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It is expensive but the original Alfa part is quite expensive too
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I appreciate that, but you can do something similar to that part for a much less.

I don;t want to slag Autolusso, as I respect them as a company, but it seems to me that you are paying a premium just for the name.

They say that it's down to the low volume of sales and the tooling required to set up production, but I know of some small companies who do custom parts in low volumes without charging such a premium. A particular company that springs to mind, who I bought a silicone hose set for my 205 from, does hoses of equal or greater complexity to this at a lower price, and I'd argue that considering the target market he must be selling in much lower volume.

As I said, it's not meant to be disrespectful to Autolusso. It's a nice looking product, but it's over priced IMO.
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I don't think £80 is too much, if you asked your 205 guy to make a comparable one I reckon it would come out round the same price, you have to remember the suction at the throttlebody will be vastly lower than on a 205, we've seen aftermarket hoses on bussone V6s collapse whilst revving stationary. A lot more layers of material have to go these parts for higher capacity engines to ensure they keep their form at the peak if demand for airflow.

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I'm sorry but I just don't agree.

You are implying that the hoses I refer to must be of a lower quality, but neither you or I have proof of that. All I will say is that the person I'm referring to has an excellent reputation in the 205 world, as does Autolusso in the Alfa world.

The part below is smaller, granted, and so uses less material, but IMO is a more complicated shape with the addition of machined parts in it's construction. I know of at least one turbo charged Mi16 engine that has this fitted without problem, so your comment about suction doesn't stack up here. In addition, with the Mi16 engine conversion no longer being 'in fashion' these days, this part is not going to be bought in the same volumes in the 205 market as the Autolusso part may well be bought in the Alfa market.

£50 versus £80.....

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At the end of the day though, if other's feel the price is not expensive for what it is, it'll sell. Given the absolutely ridiculous increase in prices of induction systems in recent years - CDA and Viper et al - I'm hardly surprised that a lot of owners don't/won't find this expensive. The tuning industry is like a license to print money in some respects these days.

Personally I'll be going down the route of a cheap silicone elbow and adding the necessary fitting to the side for another few quid, and that'll do me just fine. If it doesn't work (leaks/collapses) or doesn't last, then I'll have egg on my face, but I only tend to gamble on cheap solutions if I think they are a safe bet. I'll buy the expensive product if I think it's necessary, but not for the sake of a brand name.
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I'm sorry but I just don't agree.

You are implying that the hoses I refer to must be of a lower quality, but neither you or I have proof of that. All I will say is that the person I'm referring to has an excellent reputation in the 205 world, as does Autolusso in the Alfa world.

The part below is smaller, granted, and so uses less material, but IMO is a more complicated shape with the addition of machined parts in it's construction. I know of at least one turbo charged Mi16 engine that has this fitted without problem, so your comment about suction doesn't stack up here. In addition, with the Mi16 engine conversion no longer being 'in fashion' these days, this part is not going to be bought in the same volumes in the 205 market as the Autolusso part may well be bought in the Alfa market.

£50 versus £80.....

Baker Bushes & Mountings - Performance Bushes, Mountings and Silicon Hoses

At the end of the day though, if other's feel the price is not expensive for what it is, it'll sell. Given the absolutely ridiculous increase in prices of induction systems in recent years - CDA and Viper et al - I'm hardly surprised that a lot of owners don't/won't find this expensive. The tuning industry is like a license to print money in some respects these days.

Personally I'll be going down the route of a cheap silicone elbow and adding the necessary fitting to the side for another few quid, and that'll do me just fine. If it doesn't work (leaks/collapses) or doesn't last, then I'll have egg on my face, but I only tend to gamble on cheap solutions if I think they are a safe bet. I'll buy the expensive product if I think it's necessary, but not for the sake of a brand name.
The price for this part is £80, if you want one buy one if you donít donít, simple, the price has nothing to do with brand name

Yes it would be cheaper if it did not have the breather but then it would not be correct, without the breather is would be a fairly standard right angle and would cost about half the price

All our hoses are made under licence by SFS so are top quality, our best selling hose is our 1.9 JTD lower turbo hose and we have never had one fail

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Just received this in the post today

Cheers Dan

no more insulaton/duct tape on the intake

dont worry, the zip ties were only temporary untill i got to my local spares shop for some jublee clips
Looks great but sort that clip out

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Looks great but sort that clip out

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the pic was taken directly after fitting, 15 mins later new clips were fitted

in defence of the price, the link to the above mentioned 205 hose @ £50, while it certainly does look of good quality construction the autolusso hose i have fitted looks to be about twice the thickness and a much larger, longer bit of pipework

i will try to get a picture showing the thickness of the pipe
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I've just taken the battery out my car today and the flexi intake hose just fell apart in my hands! Must of been losing a fair bit of BHP and torque with the condition it was in.

So I've just order one of these

Then ordered all the water pipes as well.
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today! Pick it up next week

Can't wait to get it back, haven't driven it for a week since the alternator went!

It was lucky Ned had the new intake hoses finished!
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I may see your car on Thursday Joe

Ref the hoses, fondled them the other day & they are quality.

Too bright for me in blue mind you
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I've just taken the battery out my car today and the flexi intake hose just fell apart in my hands! Must of been losing a fair bit of BHP and torque with the condition it was in.

So I've just order one of these

Then ordered all the water pipes as well.
Mine was down 15bhp when dynod a few weeks ago and Ned found big splits in the intake. Annoying thing is i will need to dyno it again to see if that sorted it or whether i need a maf. May be easier just to change the maf tbh unless there is a test i can do on it.
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To say mine was split was a bit of an understatement. The whole thing was ruined!
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Mine only had holes in it on the inside of the elbow so they were not obvious until poked around. If your one was that bad you have to ask how it got into that state? Do you think someone has been taking it off regularly or maybe there engine has been moving about a bit too much?
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maybe there engine has been moving about a bit too much?
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this

I think a new lower rear mount was also on the to do list.
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After the saga i had i would change all the mounts as the rear mount wasnt actually the worst of the four
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When it was on the car it made a seal to an extent but it was torn in 2 places., as soon as I lifted it off, the rest just fell apart in my hands.
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