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Hi all,

I've recently bought a second hand brembo 330mm big brake kit for my 156. Its an aftermarket kit and NOT from a GTA.

It looks as though the discs are warped but they have no lip on them at all. Is it worth having them skimmed or are new discs the way to go?

I'm also looking to upgrade the pads and am after recommendations. Being an aftermarket kit would the calipers be the same as the GTA do you think?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Without seeing the calipers & pads it is impossible to say if they are the same or not.
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What kit is it? may help with answering

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Is the kit designed for a 156 GTA or designed for one of the other engine sizes?

Interested to know what kit it is you have bought, I didn't think Brembo did a 330mm brake kit for any model 156, besdies from the factory 330mm calipers fitted to 2004 onwards cars.
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Here is a link to the ebay add where they were bought from:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

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Aren't they the 305 calipers??
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Aren't they the 305 calipers??
Look alot like it to me, wow those small bits of metal are going to go for a fair wack!

And they look to be painted badly!
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Cheers for the replies,

I've just had the disc off and measured it and they are indeed 305mm. Best not believe everything you read on ebay.

Next question is what is the best disc / pad combo to go for.

The calipers are being powder coated this week as yes, they were very badly painted.

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Thought so. I wondered how 330's would have fitted in the caliper! I have not fitted these to my GTA yet but I have done to my 155 V6 and my 156 JTD before I uprated it to the same 305's as you have. Ferodo ds2500 pads are awesome. I will be fitting to my 305 jtd and my 330 GTA when the standard ones I have worn out. As for discs I have read it is less important. Pads make the most difference. Discs aid with fade if you have grooved/drilled. I have used brembo discs on the 155 but Ebspares own make on the JTD and found them to be just as effective but with a better cost benefit. Performance friction pads also seem to be highly rated but hard to come accross as I understand. Also I would definitely recommend braided lines. I've used HEL on all mine and they have proved great and well priced. You can also buy just front sets or rear sets. Was useful when I upgraded as I already had the rears.

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Thought so. I wondered how 330's would have fitted in the caliper! I have not fitted these to my GTA yet but I have done to my 155 V6 and my 156 JTD before I uprated it to the same 305's as you have. Ferodo ds2500 pads are awesome. I will be fitting to my 305 jtd and my 330 GTA when the standard ones I have worn out. As for discs I have read it is less important. Pads make the most difference. Discs aid with fade if you have grooved/drilled. I have used brembo discs on the 155 but Ebspares own make on the JTD and found them to be just as effective but with a better cost benefit. Performance friction pads also seem to be highly rated but hard to come accross as I understand. Also I would definitely recommend braided lines. I've used HEL on all mine and they have proved great and well priced. You can also buy just front sets or rear sets. Was useful when I upgraded as I already had the rears.
Cheers mate,

I'm awaiting some prices from Autolusso for some performance frictions pads, standard discs and braided hoses. I'll also be replacing the rubber seals on the caliper.

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Cheers mate,

I'm awaiting some prices from Autolusso for some performance frictions pads, standard discs and braided hoses. I'll also be replacing the rubber seals on the caliper.

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Hi Ben

Who are you waiting to come back to you I have not had a message or email?

Give me a call 01582 869 560 option 3

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Who are you waiting to come back to you I have not had a message or email?

Give me a call 01582 869 560 option 3

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Hi Ned,

I called Autolusso in bournemouth.

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I called Autolusso in bournemouth.

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Cool, I will send them so they can fit them for you

Just making sure we had not missed your massage

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Here is a link to the ebay add where they were bought from:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

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Ah, Brembo 305mm calipers and some home-made mounting brackets. Still, not a bad price, a fair bit cheaper than buying GTA uprights. Are the brackets steel or aluminium?
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Judging from the fact that they look a bit rusty and that paint didn't peel off them 2 hours after they gor painted, I would suspect steel brackets
 
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Cool, I will send them so they can fit them for you

Just making sure we had not missed your massage

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I wasn't aware that Autolusso offered a 'massage' service? !

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Ah, Brembo 305mm calipers and some home-made mounting brackets. Still, not a bad price, a fair bit cheaper than buying GTA uprights. Are the brackets steel oraluminium?
How did you come to the conclusion these are homemade brackets just from the picture? They are one poece machined steel brackets.

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How did you come to the conclusion these are homemade brackets just from the picture? They are one poece machined steel brackets.

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They're not in the Brembo catalogue, and no company I know of officially sells them. Presumably theres no stamped or cast part numbers? They have probably been made in a local machine shop. The ones I used with my Ferrari 360 brake calipers were similar, and I've had others made up to fit 330mm calipers to standard uprights, so its not a bad thing, just an observation.
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They're not in the Brembo catalogue, and no company I know of officially sells them. Presumably theres no stamped or cast part numbers? They have probably been made in a local machine shop. The ones I used with my Ferrari 360 brake calipers were similar, and I've had others made up to fit 330mm calipers to standard uprights, so its not a bad thing, just an observation.
From your post I assumed that you thought I had bought and fitted inferior quality parts to my car. I admit that I might have been naive in buying them, but as you said they were a fairly decent price and saves the hassle of changing the uprights, wheel bearings, etc.

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Nowt wrong with home made stuff if its done right
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Ok,

I measured the disc off the car today and they are in fact 330mm. I assume GTA 330 discs will fit fine?

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compare the other measurements to this drawing, it's from 330 GTA discs...

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Its weird because the caliper is only designed to take 28mm discs. Maybe it has been machined down internally or spaced out? Or maybe you need to use thinner pads to take the wider 32mm disc?
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if it is the 305 then it would need a centeral spacer i would of thought,
That or you have found the fabled 330x28mm discs and the braket you have sorts out the bell offset!
Have the Disk's been re-drilled by any chance ?
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Ok,

I measured the disc off the car today and they are in fact 330mm. I assume GTA 330 discs will fit fine?
Only if the caliper has been spaced to suit the thicker discs (which also means different anti-rattle spring & locator pins).
305 discs are 28mm thick
330 discs are 32mm thick

Some people have been very silly and turned the 330 discs down to 28mm thick (ie 2mm BELOW their wear limit...!!).
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Only if the caliper has been spaced to suit the thicker discs (which also means different anti-rattle spring & locator pins).
305 discs are 28mm thick
330 discs are 32mm thick
Would a 330x32mm disc fit in a 305mm caliper if slimmer pads (or part worns) were used do you know? Or is there not enough space?
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