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Brera 3.2 - Quicker, How?

Hey Guys,

I have a Brera 3.2, and while it has lots of torque , but it lacks pace.

(Part of the problem I think, is that I have just come out of a Subaru WRX STi - and it does not have the same type of aggresive power on tap...). BUT, is a lot nicer car to live with, particularly as a daily driver.

Are there any threads/advice, of simple (read cheap, and will not void warranty) improvements that have worked for other owners?

All Ears... Cheers

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Re: Brera 3.2 - Quicker, How?

This is the story so far

https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/tunin...n-the-way.html
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Navnick get twin high flow catalytic converters and a free flowing exhaust, you will be amazed. Read Gus1971 thread.If you ever travel to Sydney you are welcome to try my 3.2Q4 and see the difference I guarantee you will be amazed. I did a before and after dyno test but Jano from Autodelta thinks the results are fake and impossible and the dyno is wrong but they are not as you will find out if you do it or drive a Q4 with the mods.
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Re: Brera 3.2 - Quicker, How?

I haven't got one, but in my opinion it's all about getting a AD remap (+20hp all the way up from 4k revs+) and reducing the weight:

18" OZ Ultraleggeras will make a BIG difference
A stainless steel exhaust system will give some more power and save about 15kg.
Lose the spare wheel - 20kg
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I haven't got one, but in my opinion it's all about getting a AD remap (+20hp all the way up from 4k revs+) and reducing the weight:

18" OZ Ultraleggeras will make a BIG difference
A stainless steel exhaust system will give some more power and save about 15kg.
Lose the spare wheel - 20kg
No remap will give you a 20BHP increase from any tuner.
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No remap will give you a 20BHP increase from any tuner.
I didn't say 20hp @ maximum, check it:

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The 18'' 8C type wheels weigh a lot less than the 9 hole horseshoe wheels and they are strong, the oz wheels apparently bend very easily.

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I didn't say 20hp @ maximum, check it:

The graphs can't be correct. The crossing point of the power and torque curve of the before and the after are at different rpm.
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I don't think Autodelta would risk tarnishing their reputation by publishing incorrect information
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Regarding the Autodelta graph that CPH referred to, would it be the case that any dyno before and after graph that doesn't have the same crossover points is wrong or misleading.
Apparently the formula for torque is hp x 5,250 divided by RPM.
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I have a Supersprint catalogue for BMW at my disposal and everyone of it's before and after power graphs have the crossing points of the torque and power curves at the same RPM. They use a MAHA dyno, the best in the business and their reputation and competence is 2nd to none.
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Regarding the Autodelta graph that CPH referred to, would it be the case that any dyno before and after graph that doesn't have the same crossover points is wrong or misleading.
Apparently the formula for torque is hp x 5,250 divided by RPM.
good info - bit of an error on their part there!

But still, if I had one I'd get it remaped
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Yup well a remap is definitely worthwhile on this car, but ideally you'd get a stainless steel freer flowing exhaust and induction done first, THEN remap - that will maximise your gains far higher than the remap alone.

For illustration, on the 2.2 Brera, a typical remap gain (quoted from Autodelta) gains 10-12 bhp and 6-8 lbft of torque. I had my exhaust replaced and then remapped my 2.2 Brera, total gain was 20 bhp and 20 lb ft. Of course you have the 3.2, so I'd hope the gains would be proportionately larger. A good induction pipe pre-remap would also help.

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