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Modifying a 156

I'm thinking of spending a few quid on enhancing my 156 2.0. I'm not interested in any cosmetic changes, purely mechanical.

What would you guys recommend? What would you change and what parts would you choose?
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I'm thinking of spending a few quid on enhancing my 156 2.0. I'm not interested in any cosmetic changes, purely mechanical.

What would you guys recommend? What would you change and what parts would you choose?
Well basically it goes -> Induction - Engine - Exhaust.

you can do little bits to each of these... ? anything specific?
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I have to be honest you're not going to get a huge amount more out of a TS, unless you're willing to spend some very serious money (by putting in a supercharger ...) ... I don't believe that induction systems etc make a huge amount of difference apart from the noice ... which make it sound quicker ...

Best bet would be to improve the suspension and brakes IMO ...
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I'm thinking, handling, braking and breathing. I'm not prepared to spend silly money, say more than about 700-800.
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Koni FSD dampers would probably make an excellent upgrade for you.
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Suspension and braking really.. Brakes are expensive though, so just get good pads like DS2500s.

FSDs are fantastic but I'm not convinced the TS really needs them.. Maybe just Koni adjustables on a reasonablely soft setting, and some 30mm lower springs.
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Suspension and braking really.. Brakes are expensive though, so just get good pads like DS2500s.

FSDs are fantastic but I'm not convinced the TS really needs them.. Maybe just Koni adjustables on a reasonablely soft setting, and some 30mm lower springs.
+1 I had sports pack suspension on my TS and I was more than happy with it ...
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+1 I had sports pack suspension on my TS and I was more than happy with it ...
Mine has the comfy suspension.

I'm not looking to lower the car really. I want it to handle better and brake better.

I looked on the Koni website and couldn't find any reference to TS models, they seem to refer to JTD's and V6's.
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here you go KONI / FSD Shock Absorbers / Alfa Romeo 147 & 156 / Euro Performance Car Parts ... although I think they are designed to be used with lowered springs ...
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I have just fitted the FSDs and eibach prokit springs. Definitely enables the car to corner faster and limits the amount traction control will kick in along with the VDC which can be irritating in the wet. The springs I rekcon make a difference too and dont make the car too low at all. Inside the car your wouldnt notice any difference height wise.
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I dont supose you a going to fit a new manifold as im going to fabricate a sports ( race ) one for mine and do a few to sell. I do this as a job but this is being done on the side. It will be the goods
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Straight 4 or V6??
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FSDs are fantastic but I'm not convinced the TS really needs them.. Maybe just Koni adjustables on a reasonablely soft setting, and some 30mm lower springs.
Why wouldn't the TS benefit from the FSDs? Better damping would make a big difference to any car
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Why wouldn't the TS benefit from the FSDs? Better damping would make a big difference to any car
The TS are alot lighter than the JTDs and 2.5V6 and as such you would get diminishing returns fitting the FSDs, know doubt they would improve the car, but not as much as they improve the heavier versions ... as I've said earlier I found sports pack suspension on a TS more than adequate ...
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DO NOT go for the Koni FSD. They have changed the design in the last 2 months and now there are various reports around europe that the new ones are rubbish.

THe eibach pro street kit should be available for about £450.
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DO NOT go for the Koni FSD. They have changed the design in the last 2 months and now there are various reports around europe that the new ones are rubbish.

THe eibach pro street kit should be available for about 450.


Hmmm interesting ... I could see the market for "old ones" to boom on fleabay soon then
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...there are various reports around europe that the new ones are rubbish.
Can you point us to some of them OA? I'd like to check out what they are saying about them before I stump up the dosh...
 
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Straight 4 or V6??
Straight 4, 2L TS
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Hmmm interesting ... I could see the market for "old ones" to boom on fleabay soon then
In that case in another year and the FSDs will be worth more than my car
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In that case in another year and the FSDs will be worth more than my car
STOP IT ... although give it a couple of years and you'll be right
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The TS are alot lighter than the JTDs and 2.5V6 and as such you would get diminishing returns fitting the FSDs, know doubt they would improve the car, but not as much as they improve the heavier versions ... as I've said earlier I found sports pack suspension on a TS more than adequate ...
My car doesn't have the sportpack suspension, so I suppose I will still see a pretty sizable improvement going to the FSDs. Already ordered them so we'll see how they go...

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DO NOT go for the Koni FSD. They have changed the design in the last 2 months and now there are various reports around europe that the new ones are rubbish.
This is a little worrying - hopefully I should still be OK here as the ones I bought were an ebay special from an Australian outfit so are probably old stock (I suppose one advantage of living in the middle of nowhere). Any info on how to tell the good ones from the bad ones?
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This is a little worrying - hopefully I should still be OK here as the ones I bought were an ebay special from an Australian outfit so are probably old stock (I suppose one advantage of living in the middle of nowhere). Any info on how to tell the good ones from the bad ones?

that is the first time I've heard that ... hopefully Joe will substantiate his claims ...
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that is the first time I've heard that ... hopefully Joe will substantiate his claims ...
Alfisti.net have removed them from their shop too as a lot the dutch guys have been unimpressed apparently.

I'm trying to find out where I read this...I read a lot of info in a week!

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Re: Modifying a 156

Im in the same boat with a 156 JTS and its become very quickly apparent that theres isnt a massive amount you can do for more powahhhhh!!! (except a supercharger also dont autodelta do turbos for the TS?)

handling is the key.

But I have fitted the following and there is a marked improvement, not massive but better non the less

Ragazzon s/s unsilenced centre section (maybe too noisey for some)
Ragazzon s/s back box with oval exit
Sparco front upper strut brace
bmc air filter

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