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Is 440 about right for getting an engine remapped.

Been talking to a guy who has quoted me 440 to remap my 1.6TS engine. This will include fitting a unichip to the car then remapping it. The company have never remapped the 1.6TS although have remapped V6 alfa's so they have offered to do this on a refund policy if i'm not happy with the gains but will have to pay for there time and effort (80) which i think is reasonable.


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Re: Is 440 about right for getting an engine remapped.

red dot will do for a lot less and on a re to.
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unfortunately i'm in northern Ireland. Quite a bit away from Watford
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Yep 2 or 3 remapping co's that will do it for a lot less than that and poss more experience with Alfas directly.
440 is s lot!
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**** me! £440 rip off! Your in Ireland right? Damien C was trying to arrange a remap day I think?
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Cross posting is great aint it

P.s I thought you were still on those "R" plates and couldnt go more than 40mph
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P.s I thought you were still on those "R" plates and couldnt go more than 40mph
I'm trying to get to 40mhp FASTER
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Been talking to a guy who has quoted me £440 to remap my 1.6TS engine. This will include fitting a unichip to the car then remapping it. The company have never remapped the 1.6TS although have remapped V6 alfa's so they have offered to do this on a refund policy if i'm not happy with the gains but will have to pay for there time and effort (£80) which i think is reasonable.


Whats your thoughts guys?
I think that sounds like a steal, the Dastek Unichip Management system is £400 ex vat as it is, so if they are going to dyno tune your car with at as well for £440 that's a bargain

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anyonw with a 147 gta had a remapp done at red dot and what results did you get?
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I think that sounds like a steal, the Dastek Unichip Management system is 400 ex vat as it is, so if they are going to dyno tune your car with at as well for 440 that's a bargain

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GD - 440 is expensive from whichever supplier, especially considering the low power gains in real terms on the 1.6. In all honesty he should save around 200 but getting a remap from either angel, reddot or celtic.

Each to their own, but Ive always steered well away from a physical chip and gone down the remapping route.
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if you're planning on doing anything else to the engine as well, you should do that first and get the ECU mapped last of all to make the most out of any other mods you've done
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GD - £440 is expensive from whichever supplier, especially considering the low power gains in real terms on the 1.6. In all honesty he should save around £200 but getting a remap from either angel, reddot or celtic.

Each to their own, but Ive always steered well away from a physical chip and gone down the remapping route.
I disagree, the factory management is conservative at best, products like Dastek, OMAP, Etc. are race proven technologies, but like Rancido said, the mapping is part of the package and should be aligned to the total tuning package i.e last thing you do.

@ OP weight is the enemy in your car, it's a comparatively heavy car for the size of engine so it needs to be worked to get the best out of it, talk to Pud247 (Dan) he has the Dastek Unichip fitted to his car so should be able to give you some idea of real world gains if that's the direction you want to go.

Personally I'll be looking at dyno tuning mine at some stage and may even factor in 3rd party engine management I will still be going quite conservative though, V6 GTA engines are hard to come by don't want to blow mine up .

Hunter, I've come to realise that the generic power maps that are provided by Angel et al are just that, a generic map, nothing beats a dyno tune, a generic map might provide more power but who knows what stresses it puts the engine and ancilliaries under.

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Interesting

Good job Im not thinking of doing anything to the 159.... *halo*

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£440!!! That's a fair bit more than even more than Autodelta charge for the 1.6!!!

I dont think the unichip is necessary on the car either, a proper remap is fine!
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440!!! That's a fair bit more than even more than Autodelta charge for the 1.6!!!

I dont think the unichip is necessary on the car either, a proper remap is fine!
The unichip doesn't have to stay with that car, once it's bought it can be moved to another car easily enough.
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The unichip doesn't have to stay with that car, once it's bought it can be moved to another car easily enough.
yes, but then it needs to be reworked... so more $$$...
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mate can you break it down to what bit i need to read as thats the whole post for the event.
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No problem fella! When I had my test to see what it was initially running at it came back at 252.4 bhp with 181.4 ft-lb of torque at the wheels. I was really happy with this until they told me that they though it might have already been mapped Luckily it hadnt and they said it was the best running one they had ever had and they mostly run around 240hbp. End result 261.2bhp & 192.8 ft-lb torque, doesnt sound like massive gains but it makes such a difference to the power delivery

Big Jon the Irish rep had his done, his had a random factory map retarding the injection which ment his was only at around 230bhp I think but they got his upto 258 bhp ish so all was good in the end

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Re: Is 440 about right for getting an engine remapped.

If the engine is going to be relatively standard, then a unichip is probably overkill. But, for the price, that is very good. My car ( 3.2 inlet manifold & injectors, 2.5 exhaust manifolds, 2.5 engine management) arguably needs the Unichip, as the ECU cannot be mapped via ODB anyway so getting it remapped is a bit of a PITA, I would have to go to London and get Red Dot to do it, and even then they would probably have to write something custom for me rather than just tweaking a generic map..

The added benefit of the unichip over the standard management is that it is mappable past the 7,000rpm standard rev limit. In the normal management system, you can only set injection time and duration and ignition time values for the 0 - 7,000rpm rev range. If you plan to rev over the 7,000rpm limit, you can do one of two things - map the car ideally up to 7,000rpm, and accept it will run less than its potential after 7,000rpm; or set the ignition and injection timings to be ideal for the over-7,000rpm rev range, then calculate from these what the values at 7,000rpm need to be for the management to run these figures when you go over 7,000rpm. Either way, you will be running at a disadvantage on standard engine management compared to the Unichip - but you need to ask yourself how much difference this will make on the road on a 1600 engine that is completely standard otherwise - probably not very much.

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