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Hi I have just received my new h and r lowering springs that lower car between 30-35 mm.

I am just wondering what your opinions are about these springs? I got them at a bargain price of 104euros thanks to Rancido64. Thanks again man.

Also does anyone have any idea how much they should cost to fit? As in the last week I have spent 1250 in fixing up a few problems and getting the car serviced with Gerry in TI Autos, class guy.

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well dude glad ya got em!

I've 2 mechanic friends that'll do em for €25 per corner, so €100 overall.
It'll take em around 3-4 hours i'd imagine, they're based just down near Firhouse if you're interested
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Re: H and R lowering springs

seems odd to ask about them AFTER buying them!

H&R are a top quality brand. their springs are often a smidge 'lower' than others like Eibach, but usually a smidge stiffer too.

for optimal performance, you 'must' upgrade the dampers too. that is, it'll probably be too stiff and harsh without quality dampers, unless your existing ones are as-new (unlikely). you might wish to hold off installing them until you have new dampers - otherwise, you'll be repeating the same work to fit new dampers later. best economy is to fit new springs and dampers at the same time, and of course have a 4-wheel alignment down straight after. if they are secondhand/used, then the springs should have 'sagged'/settled already (all new springs need use and time to sag), so you shouldn't need a repeated wheel alignment after 500km or so. normally, with new springs, the geometry will all change again once the springs sag, so you would get another alignment done.

KONI Sport dampers is what i recommend. otherwise, KONI FSD (more expensive), or Bilstein B6/8. B8 suits springs lowering the car 40mm+ (ie: are short-stroke versions) but seek advice from the retailer.


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well dude glad ya got em!

I've 2 mechanic friends that'll do em for €25 per corner, so €100 overall.
It'll take em around 3-4 hours i'd imagine, they're based just down near Firhouse if you're interested
Ye man would have been hard to say no at that price, grabbed them as soon as i could!

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seems odd to ask about them AFTER buying them!

H&R are a top quality brand. their springs are often a smidge 'lower' than others like Eibach, but usually a smidge stiffer too.

for optimal performance, you 'must' upgrade the dampers too. that is, it'll probably be too stiff and harsh without quality dampers, unless your existing ones are as-new (unlikely). you might wish to hold off installing them until you have new dampers - otherwise, you'll be repeating the same work to fit new dampers later. best economy is to fit new springs and dampers at the same time, and of course have a 4-wheel alignment down straight after. if they are secondhand/used, then the springs should have 'sagged'/settled already (all new springs need use and time to sag), so you shouldn't need a repeated wheel alignment after 500km or so. normally, with new springs, the geometry will all change again once the springs sag, so you would get another alignment done.

KONI Sport dampers is what i recommend. otherwise, KONI FSD (more expensive), or Bilstein B6/8. B8 suits springs lowering the car 40mm+ (ie: are short-stroke versions) but seek advice from the retailer.

Thanks for all the advice i think i will hold off now for a while and save up a bit more and buy the KONI sport dampers. Got the springs as a bargain impulse buy thanks to Rancido so had to get them!

Thanks again.
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No matter how long you wait, I can only strongly advise you to get replacement nuts and bolts for evert joint you disturb whil st doing the job, aicwilson and myself have had a mare of a weekend replacing his suspension with FSDs and Eibach springs, although the JTS cambelt change went superbly.
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No matter how long you wait, I can only strongly advise you to get replacement nuts and bolts for evert joint you disturb whil st doing the job, aicwilson and myself have had a mare of a weekend replacing his suspension with FSDs and Eibach springs, although the JTS cambelt change went superbly.

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