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I have the new Dimplex qantum storage heater system. They store on economy seven and are programmable for 7 days with holiday mode as well. They will store enough over one night to operate for two days. Cut our heating bill by 20% compared to our old storage heaters.
 
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Wish they did storage heaters here.
We have cheap rate 'leccy but no heaters to profit from it....
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One wood burner here heats two open plan floors.

You get home, you light it and ten minutes later the whole house is warm.

Even if our heating could be HIVE controlled I don't see the point. You know when you want it to be on and you know when you want it to be off. I can wait the two minutes it takes to boil the kettle rather than having a conversation with it from my car.

Just more stuff to go wrong imo.
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One wood burner here heats two open plan floors.
Very right-on-eco-21st century!
(No, seriously: BBC News - Renewable energy: Burning US trees in UK power stations)



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Just more stuff to go wrong imo.
That's probably what they said to Caxton about the printing press....
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A follow up to my security post. I was in Merry Hill today and they have people there pushing Hive.

I asked the question of how secure their box is and after some discussion they rang their technical people. They started off by telling me how secure British Gas servers were and when pressed about the kit installed with a customer, I was bounced around various technical "experts" who finally came up with the admission that the little square box that you connect to your router is in fact an unsecured computer provided by British Gas on a port that you've thoughtfully opened on your router for it. As well as sitting there waiting for your smart phone connection, because it is unsecured, it is also sitting waiting for any hacker to attempt to compromise it.

For the people that install Hive, I just hope the botnet that your little square box becomes part of is only distributing spam emails and not something a whole lot nastier.

"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet" - Winston Churchill
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I installed a Wickes (Siemens) programmable roomstat myself, in place of the old bimetallic strip 'stat in my lounge. Anyone could do it themselves. It cost about £30 and is programmable on an individual day basis, or weekend/weekday. Upper and lower temperature limits for on and off modes, 2hr manual override or continuous manual override. I have a gas combi-boiler (which heats radiators) so hot water is on-demand.

Anti-frost mode for winter holidays absence.

With thermostatic valves on the rads, it's very easy to get all rooms in the house exactly how you like them, while controlling everything from the comfort of the lounge (which is individually controllable because there are no thermostatic valves on the rads in there).

Unless your job hours are completely variable and unpredictable, I see HIVE as unnecessary (and potentially dangerous) if some of the posts here are to be believed - and I'm sure they are to be.
 
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Linky for thge room stat Max?
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Got it 4 years ago, but I think it's this one Keithy:

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I reckon better heating and hot water control would be a bonus.

My current system is a dial stat, and a on/ off/ twice/ once system. Both hot water and heating on same 2 on/periods 7 days a week.

If I could program it for 7 days a week the routine of the house could be catered for. A new 7 day stat and control panel was quoted at over £300 by a local gas/sparky person. This Hive can be dumb and controlled by a wall panel so it'd be a saving over the other options.
My pal at work has had it fitted [finally] for that reason. The downside unfortunately, he's constantly telling me through the day what the temp is at home
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1,000 nectar points now if you order one.

What's that, a quid?

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1000 points is £5 at Sainsburys.
 
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I can see a flaw in this HIVE thing.

Wife - at work - sees on her smartphone that the temperature at home is 'only' 19C and ups it to 24C ready for her return home.

Husband - at work on his computer - sees that wife has upped temperature to 24C and promptly puts it down to 15C to get the fuel bill back on track.

Wife sees what husband has done and reverses the operation. Husband does likewise.

Wife gets home to find house is a 'bloody freezing 20C', turns heating up fullblast and feeds husband's dinner to the dog.

Husband returns home to find his dinner in the dog, and the boiler has blown-up from mental exhaustion.

Acrimonious divorce follows with £10,000 going on solicitor's bills, and £3000 on plumber's bills.

A salutary tale for the modern married couple, I fear.
 
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1000 points is £5 at Sainsburys.
Woot woot!


Not.

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Don't Knock it, that's a 2 1/2 percent 'discount' right there!
 
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1,000 nectar points now if you order one.

What's that, a quid?

Do they also do GreenShield stamps?
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For the people that install Hive, I just hope the botnet that your little square box becomes part of is only distributing spam emails and not something a whole lot nastier..
This is going to be a real problem. BG will sell millions of these things, and in 3 years time some 15 year old will crack it wide open. A simple port scan will pick them all up, and lo, the entire nation's heating shut down on a cold winter's evening. Or turned up to full in the summer. Or the geolocation features subverted for burglary.

So we're going to have to end up with a patching strategy for our heating controllers, which most people won't follow. The simple rule is that if you release hardware, it will be cracked, and there is nothing you can do about it.
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Very right-on-eco-21st century!
(No, seriously: BBC News - Renewable energy: Burning US trees in UK power stations)

That's probably what they said to Caxton about the printing press....
We all use/convert energy without heed and play lip service to the "environment" - we take our leccy from the national grid which, in turn, takes it from whichever source including dubious Russian ones.

I just like burning wood for heat, it works and I don't consider the environment - it is also cheap. If I (even could) fit super electronic controls to the system it would not add value - Caxton, on the other hand , did.
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Wood burner are a blight down here.

All nice 'n' cosy inside, but when you're out for a walk in the evening
the amount of smoke makes it seem like the 15th century.
Everyone likes to burn wood and there are no smokeless fuel rules so it's
[cough][cough][cough]...
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Wood burner are a blight down here.

All nice 'n' cosy inside, but when you're out for a walk in the evening
the amount of smoke makes it seem like the 15th century.
Everyone likes to burn wood and there are no smokeless fuel rules so it's
[cough][cough][cough]...
That's because people don't know how to use them properly. They should only smoke for 5-10 minutes when first lit. Once they heat up and you regulate the air supply they chuck out loads of heat and there is no visible smoke at all and they should burn like that for hours.

"Regulate the air supply" is where people go wrong - chuck some more wood on and turn up the supply - one it is burning turn it down again. People can be lazy or simply unaware.
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