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Query about 166 bushings - yawn, I know!!

Hi all,

My 166 has failed the NCT over a bushing in the rear multilink suspension.

I know the 166 is famous for this issue, having owned and enjoyed several 166's since 2000 I've been there more than once and often payed major €'s for them to be re-done.

My questions are:

a) can anyone recommend or advise on experience with POWERFLEX bushings? They claim to be a permanent fix and a better solution than the rubber bushings available from Alfa Romeo dealers. They sell non-rubber replacements for all bushings (front & rear) for the 166 and I'm tempted.

b) Can these be replaced as a DIY job? I don't have a pit or a lift, but do have a trolley jack (courtesy of Lidl !!) and could raise rear of car etc. I don't know much about taking off and replacing parts on cars, but in these economic times I'm willing to try - so if anyone can advise I'd appreciate it. I have all common tools at hand.

c) If it's not recommended as a DIY job, can anyone recommend a mechanic in the vacinity of county Longford who understands Alfa's and their owners passions etc.? i.e. a mechanic who cares!

Many thanks for reading my woes and I hope someone can help me out :-)

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Hi all,

My 166 has failed the NCT over a bushing in the rear multilink suspension.

I know the 166 is famous for this issue, having owned and enjoyed several 166's since 2000 I've been there more than once and often payed major 's for them to be re-done.

My questions are:

a) can anyone recommend or advise on experience with POWERFLEX bushings? They claim to be a permanent fix and a better solution than the rubber bushings available from Alfa Romeo dealers. They sell non-rubber replacements for all bushings (front & rear) for the 166 and I'm tempted.

b) Can these be replaced as a DIY job? I don't have a pit or a lift, but do have a trolley jack (courtesy of Lidl !!) and could raise rear of car etc. I don't know much about taking off and replacing parts on cars, but in these economic times I'm willing to try - so if anyone can advise I'd appreciate it. I have all common tools at hand.

c) If it's not recommended as a DIY job, can anyone recommend a mechanic in the vacinity of county Longford who understands Alfa's and their owners passions etc.? i.e. a mechanic who cares!

Many thanks for reading my woes and I hope someone can help me out :-)

Cheers
Hi Fix I would say "and welcome" but it looks as though you've been here since 2002 making you one of the oldest members!!

Regarding the bushes it might be better to post the question in the 166 lounge to garner opinion on powerflex and the fix itself. I have heard some mixed reviews on powerflex and people seem to vary in opinion based on the model they are used on.
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For recomended mechanics near you check out the following thread there is bound to be one near you (most should be in the first post but try doing a thread search in case any were missed in/near Longford.

https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/repub...f-ireland.html

Let us know how you get on.

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Quite a few people use them in the 164-166 lounge, but they also squeek loudly and some people sait they are too harsh. tbh I don't think Alfa sells bushes, just the whole suspension arm together. Call Gerry, and ask for his opinion.
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My 166 also failed based on the rear bushings, apparently its a common fault. There are a couple of good guides on here and here

I am going to give them a go and ordered the bushes from ebay which I am really hoping are the right ones Hope the go in as planned. Will keep you posted on how I get on.

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hi fix, i have been advised by gerry in Ti to never go with the poly bushes because as klap said they are noisy but he said everybody who has requested he fit them came back to him within weeks asking him to refit the oem and didnt like them at all.
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I did the rear bushes (not fitted them but Mechanic did the work ) and was going to polybushe them but as said they are not recommended as the bush (poly) is not "flexible" . There's a merc bush which is reasonable and can be got at reasonable money ( around 30 yoyo's I think is what I paid for them but would need to check again!) . They can be done but you will need a press to get the old ones out and new ones in .. Let me know if you need the part number for the merc bush I know I have the info somewhere and I can dig out the info if you wish , Theres a guy we use but hes in cork which is probably too far away for you . And welcome along , another 166 owner

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I've a Twinspark and Gerry in TI replaced the ARB bushes and they weren't expensive...
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Arb bushes are different ?? The bushes he's talking about are on the HUB ? Maybe Im going senile again
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Thanks Gav, I had a 2yo 166 in 2002 and loved it for 5 years. I joined here to seek out other Irish 166 owners only to find none at the time!
Great to see there's now a Republic of Ireland group, I must "join" if that's the right terminology.
I sold my 166 in 2008 and bought a Saab. But now, I am happy to say I'm back in a 166 and loving it all over again
The 166 really is the motor industry's best kept secret and I'm delighted to be enjoying one again.
I'll have to do a bit more thinking and research about these bushes options and see what I'll decide to do....
Thanks all for the advice and comments.
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The full rear bush kits are available through italy and they are the original bushes...
 
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Arb bushes are different ?? The bushes he's talking about are on the HUB ? Maybe Im going senile again
My bad old dude!
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Less of the bad and even more less of the old !!
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The full rear bush kits are available through italy and they are the original bushes...
I hope these are not the ones that you mentioned

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because they are made in Poland by a garage company called TEDGUM.

I have all the rear wishbones fitted with powerflex and never had a bother with them. You just have literally dip them in the copper grease before fitting.
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Some info here

https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...eal-price.html

along with the shopping list that currently being fitted to mine ...

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Merc E190 use the same bush, easily avaialble from Auto Factors for €20 each
 
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