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LPG in ireland.

Why can't we get it. I have looked int ogetting a conversion done and there are about 5 petrol stations that stock it. In the UK it is everywhere. Aare the afraid we could save a bit of money?
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It's good for cooking and heating not for driving :P
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..tax seemingly. The government upped the tax on it to the extent that there was no saving on it, plus the garages have to pay an annual tax to sell it. Because of this tax they mostly took out the pumps, so now that the price of petrol has risen to a level where there would be a saving there's no pumps left..
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My dad used to have it on older cars over here, but as mentioned, pumps were gone due to tax from what I heard also.
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It's a a shame because people would definitely use it now with the price of juice. The UK has a big market for it.
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Ever driven a car with it? - never again...
Fine if the car is designed to take it - but after sales mods are painful.
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Serious? I have never driven a car with a conversion. There is a guy on here with a V6 converted.
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There is one petrol station in Thurles, close enough to me drove few cars with it and I wouldn't say it's painful, probably depends how it's done
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years ago a guy I know had his car converted to LPG but it was a beeeatch to start . Probably got over that problem by now with new technology ..
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..a few chaps in the 166 section on here have it done and everybody seems happy so far. like anything you can spend more to get better kit, but they seem to be getting a reasonable job done for around stg1000.

there's a garage that sells it in kilkenny too, but i don't know of too many more.

if you happened to live near a supply i suppose it could be worth your while to keep an eye out for something like this;

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My only experience was in 2 old fords..

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-Loss of large part of the boot
-Similar starting issues as reported by Dermo - particularly in the cold
-And I could smell it way too much in the car, so always drove with windows open

Am sure it's improved - this was >10yrs ago. But as pointed out, you need to ensure you have a supply close at hand or its pointless..
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- no underground car parks
- no channel tunnel
- similar mpg
+ low cost of LPG
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- no underground car parks
- no channel tunnel
- similar mpg
+ low cost of LPG
- They'd never know
- meh
- Still cheaper than petrol
- As above.
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Yes but you have to pay for installation first and good one is not really cheap. Then you are loosing space in your trunk
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Cheaper than petrol , thats only if you dont have to drive 100 miles to fill up every time and if you factor in the cost of conversion and the difference in MPG (or to be PC kms per litre!) there's alot of miles in 1000 yoyo's
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Cheaper than petrol , thats only if you dont have to drive 100 miles to fill up every time and if you factor in the cost of conversion and the difference in MPG (or to be PC kms per litre!) there's alot of miles in 1000 yoyo's

And they say driving diesel Alfas is bad (they not me)...
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yup they say a lot them people alright
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yup they say a lot them people alright
Isn't it good that they have us to straighten them out like bhoy?
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I think Chawkes in Limerick sell LPG. Spotted it on the sign driving past today, 99c per litre. Might look into a conversion for my Xsara
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I think Chawkes in Limerick sell LPG. Spotted it on the sign driving past today, 99c per litre. Might look into a conversion for my Xsara
..so for instance for me it would pay for itself in a year give or take at those prices, and i don't even do that much mileage these days. Only downside i can see apart from the supply issue is you loose boot space or your spare wheel well..
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I sent an email to a company in the North who do conversions to get an idea of price and what's involved. I'll post back when I get an answer. Am I right in thinking that you can still run the car on petrol once converted or is solely on LPG?

The only reason I'd sell the VTS is because of petrol costs, if I could run it mostly on LPG and petrol when out of range of an stockist, I'd def hold on to it.
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may I suggest this thread? It seems there are different options/solutions/price to consider.
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lots of things to weigh up...

I used the calculator on that thread....

I put in for a typical alfa 35mpg, a price per litre of 144c for petrol and 99c for lpg, and reckon have to be doing 20k+ miles a year to justify the cost (savings of €650 for the year)... Even then it takes ~2yrs (£1000 ~= €1250) for it to pay back the investment and in the meantime your stuck with either no spare wheel (important on Irish roads ) and/or lack of boot space.

In addition - cos it's hard to get here, you have to factor in a % use factor.. The calculator assumes you move completely 100% to running on LPG, so if you only get to use it say 40% of the time it just doesn't become economical in this country as your savings are now only €260 per year - i.e. 5yrs to pay off the investment.

In the UK - moving to LPG makes sense. It's not taxed as much and is about 40-50% of a litre of unleaded. Here it's about 70% of a litre of unleaded, so the savings aren't so great. Also, because there was a push of LPG in the UK back in the mid 00s they have the infrastructure in place - we do not.

It all comes down to your situation and usage.
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Very helpful comment Rik!
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+ If you will decide to change car , no one will give you back your investment and not everybody would like to buy car with this modification here
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