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Oil change.

Just changed the oil and filter on the 156 earlier. It took me 30 mins as usual.

Then tackled the 159. What a pain in the ***! There is a very annoying plastic engine tray I had to remove. It's held on by two 8mm bolts, two 10mm bolts, two alan bolts, two philips screws and 10 'star' headed bolts! The dam sump bolt was 15mm head. Who uses 15mm??? Of course my 15mm socket was missing!! Took an hour of messing around all for the sake of a quick drop of oil.



I also found a factory fitted clip rubbing off part of the wiring loom eating it's way into the little wires inside!!! That would have been a nice pain in the *** to fix if it had severed the wires. I noticed Alfa were a bit mean on the wiring of the 159. It's like the cables are stretched in place in order to use the minimum of copper cable. Dam accountants!!

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Hah! Just logged on after several months to see if I could get advice on changing the oil and filter on my 2.4 JTDM 159

I take it it's not simply a case of undoing a nut then to release the oil
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Get a oil sucker be grand Save all that hassle man. You should have an undertray on the 156 they are there for a reason.
 
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them oil suckers are a bit expensive Damo, any ive seen were about €100
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I have an oil sucker/pump yoke alright but the dip stick hole is a bit tight. And the hose from the sucker bottoms out above the level of the bottom of the sump. ( if that makes sense)

Besides I like moaning anyway.
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I can get them for about 90 euro for sealey ones they are the job. And saves the hassle of runing a sump nut which can happen on the sumps of TS engines as I know.
 
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Hah! Just logged on after several months to see if I could get advice on changing the oil and filter on my 2.4 JTDM 159

I take it it's not simply a case of undoing a nut then to release the oil
There is a hole/gap in the under tray where ou can get at the sump bolt but the oil would then flow out onto the under-tray thing. I don't have a oil catcher that would fit in the gap to the tray had to come off

To be honent it's not a big deal it just a bit fiddlely.
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Thanks Cherb,

I've the lowered suspension, so will probably have the same problem.

P.S. A damned accountant!
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Thanks Cherb,

I've the lowered suspension, so will probably have the same problem.

P.S. A damned accountant!
Oops! I ment to say dam Itialian accountants..

Yeah the Ti sits low alright when you're manovering the troley jack in there.

What oil are you going to use out of interest?
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Oops! I ment to say dam Itialian accountants..

Yeah the Ti sits low alright when you're manovering the troley jack in there.

What oil are you going to use out of interest?
Okay, the accountant thing probably gives it away - but I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to engines (and they still allowed me to buy an Alfa!). I'd probably go with the recommended Selenia 5w-40 only because I don't know better.

I'm coming up to my third year of ownership and had 2 years free service from the Cork Alfa dealers (long story) and it now needs its first oil change from me. I've only ever changed the oil and filter in my saab previously which was not difficult, but this car being so low might defeat me. I'll do some searching on the forum to see what's required, and if it seems doable I'll give it a go. It should be something a "normal" person could do.
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mate its so simple, I did an oil change in November and used tutela which is made by selenia but miles cheaper.
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mate its so simple, I did an oil change in November and used tutela which is made by selenia but miles cheaper.
Cheers - just need to locate the oil filter and see if I can access the sump nut. Might give this a try tomorrow - My wife will have the local A&E on speed dial.
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My 166 has the tray as well which I made the mistake of taking of before changing the oil.
I think you can get away with leaving the back two bolts on and put your used oil tray/basin on the actual tray.

The 166 has an 8mm allen key sump nut.

Cherb at least 15mm is an odd number (as opposed to even not strange).
My wife has a 97 Primera which has 12mm bolts which drive me mad - trying to remember if there were other awkward sizes...

Generally find 8, 10, 13, 15 (less common), 17 and 19mm are the most common sizes...

Re type of oil: I've been using Castrol Magnatec which Gerry in TI also likes...
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Cheers - just need to locate the oil filter and see if I can access the sump nut. Might give this a try tomorrow - My wife will have the local A&E on speed dial.
Jack it up and use an axle stand (or two)...
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Jack it up and use an axle stand (or two)...

Thanks - I bought Axle jacks, but don't see where I could use them on the 159, maybe on the inside. Mmmmmm Cheers!
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Thanks - I bought Axle jacks, but don't see where I could use them on the 159, maybe on the inside. Mmmmmm Cheers!
I was sharing out of complete ignorance re the 159 as I've never seen or been underneath one.
(Working as opposed to being run over by one).

I'm guessing you can use your front jacking points with jack and if you have separate axle stands put them under the wishbones...
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Re type of oil: I've been using Castrol Magnatec which Gerry in TI also likes...
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Yea fair point. I put in the Castrol Edge stuff. The service interval on the car is 18k miles (or one year). That's too lon for me in my mind anyway. Should be 10k miles with a timin chain.

I could drop the tray slightly and shove in the oil tray but the tray was flexing a lot at looked like it may crack so decided to drop the whole thing.
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Yea fair point. I put in the Castrol Edge stuff. The service interval on the car is 18k miles (or one year). That's too lon for me in my mind anyway. Should be 10k miles with a timin chain.

I could drop the tray slightly and shove in the oil tray but the tray was flexing a lot at looked like it may crack so decided to drop the whole thing.
I've resolved to change the engine oil every 6000 miles now...
Picked up 3 oil filters for £3.50 a pop at Shelsley Walsh in the summer so it's just the oil I have to buy for the next two changes... (one done already just in case Gav is concerned about my mathematical prowess)
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I buy my oil in bulk and filters change it every 4k miles cos my car does get driven hard.
 
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Does that mean we all need to man up?
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