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We are after having a few problems with our latest 166, first the drivers side rear door stopped locking, (I removed one of the locks from our old 166 and that sorted the problem) now the passenger side lock is acting up. The airbag light came on a few days ago and hasn't gone off.(this coincided with the spillage of 5 ltrs of shampoo in the boot, surly a coincidence) I drove the car yesterday and noted erratic acceleration when cold and then the wife rang me today and said she found it hard to start and once it started she found it "speeding up and slowing down until it warmed up), MAF sensor maybe?? Anybody any ideas??
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1. Why was there 5 litres of shampoo in your boot?
2. Why is your wife still driving your Alfa?
3. It sounds like the SIMI have a voodoo doll of your imported 166 and are sticking pins in it
4. I can't really help. Well, I'll have a guess-could you try an ECU reset?

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1. Why was there 5 litres of shampoo in your boot?
I've a lot of hair (well used to have, in the eighties) Wife runs a Hair Salon..

2. Why is your wife still driving your Alfa?
Well she loves it (can you blame her) and shes the boss!

3. It sounds like the SIMI have a voodoo doll of your imported 166 and are sticking pins in it
Hmmm... Naw!

4. I can't really help.
I've noticed that
Thanks anyway
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Try disconnecting/unplugging the MAF sensor, and take a spin to see if it makes a difference...

Airbag light on is usually fixed by checking the connections under the seats, give the plugs a good shove to make sure they are seated right...

5 litres of shampoo in your boot, must be a very clean Bella
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Thanks MJet, I'll be checking it out tomorrow, as for the shampoo....the booth smells like a Hair Salon!
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Thanks MJet, I'll be checking it out tomorrow, as for the shampoo....the booth smells like a Hair Salon!
New car smell..Ahh cool
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New hair smell maybe!
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only spotted this post now......

...are you still in trouble with the engine? If it's the 2.0 TS engine I can help you.... the throttle body housing may need recalibrating... I also have a 156 with a 2.0 TS engine which broke my heart some time back.. in the end I bought the diagnostic gear & software to keep my car on the road and out of the dealership...

In my 156 the revs would climb and sink over and over without touching the accelerator! It made the car scary to drive... after a re-calibration the car was fine. Its a feature of the SnapOn gear that comes with the FIAT software... It only takes around 3mins but the results are brilliant. Sometimes you can hear the 'butterfly housing' opening and closing a few times (in the trottle body housing) if you stick the key in your car, set to to II and off again.... this is the 'yoke' that needs calibrating.

PM me if you want me to take a quick look at any codes stored and do a re-cal etc..

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Where did you get the diagnostic gear & software from, I would'nt mind getting a set for myself. My problem seems to be the rubber inlet pipe its cracked and is drawing air in, still havent got around to fixing it, Kieran
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What year is the 166 as a forced recalibration of the throttle can cause issues but it is normally programmed without the use of any diag tools.
 
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Its a 04 f/l
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Is it refusing to rev above 1300rpm or just very flat to drive on
 
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No it revs ok, its just hesitant when cold, seems ok once it warms up.
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No it revs ok, its just hesitant when cold, seems ok once it warms up.
I think I am getting the same thing at the moment, it is ok when I start her up for the first time, then only after I move and then at idle again i.e. traffic lights it seems a bit hesitant I have a sneaking suspicion it might be my spark plugs it has done 102k on the originals
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Where did you get the diagnostic gear & software from, I would'nt mind getting a set for myself. My problem seems to be the rubber inlet pipe its cracked and is drawing air in, still havent got around to fixing it, Kieran
I bought Snap On gear a few years back.... MT2500 scanner + the manu software....


Ah cracked inlet pipe... that'll do it alright!
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I've seen them Snap on yokes there decent enough to be honest.
 
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I have a sneaking suspicion it might be my spark plugs it has done 102k on the originals
Thats not very nice we could chip in and get her a new set.

I'm not fully up on Alfa engines but with running issues I find its always best to clean the engine out first. Check/change plugs, clean out cylinders,oil if its getting close to change time, filters air/fuel, air intake pipes and butterfly. You know yourself, do the simple stuff first.
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I've seen them Snap on yokes there decent enough to be honest.
yea... was looking around for ages on which one to buy..... this was the same year my 156 was back to the garage 8 times in 12 months.... the garage were brilliant, it's just the car was a bit sick.. the poor thing had a bad case FIAT Wiring Syndrome & a few dodgy sensors.. No big deal really.... in the end when the immobiliser stuff forced me to do the whole 'morse code' thing with the accelerator each time I wanted to start her it was time to invest in some kit to fix this stuff myself! I had seen one in use in an independent garage and thought it was the job..

Bought it a good few years back.. but the 156 is totally reliable now... in fact I'd have to say after fixing the wiring/electrical niggles she's been the most reliable car I've ever owned (Alfa or non-Alfa). I'm ranting here I know, but also she's never drunk a drop of oil either..

I've used the kit to help out a few other 156 owners in my locality in the past few years, and once the 'known' issues are fixed the owners tended to keep their 156's....

...continuing the rant........ when an Alfa gives trouble some owner have this attitude 'Yeah, typical Alfa... I'm getting rid of this...blah blah"... that wrecks my head! No car manufacturer is perfect... for example I've heard of a few VW Golf "die-hards" going though they own hell at the moment with their engines eating turbos for some reason..?? In fact there is a lad calling down to me tonight with a 06 Golf TDI on it's second turbo and the engine check light on again in limp home mode. His garage has no idea whats wrong. Hmmm. Anyway there you go..

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Well said as most folk know about my passion for Italian cars and this poor attitude towards them does my head in too as knowledge is the key to fixing these modern cars and not the "laptop that fixes them"
 
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I was thinking of getting this one, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBDII-USB-DIAG...item20b01d275a
What do ye think?
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They can be ok but the good units cost a nice few euro but some of these systems dont always read all the info that is needed.
 
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Long time no hear Dermo, how did the detailing go?
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