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Hi all. I'm currently driving a 1.4 petrol VW Golf mk5 and am looking for something a litte quicker, but not too much as I want to keep insurance and tax down. Just browsing on carzone earlier and noticed a few nice looking Alfa 147 1.6 T-Sparks around Cork for sale and have to admit they are good looking cars Does anyone have some info on what the 147 1.6 T-Spark is like in terms of power and driveability? Wikipedia says the power ranged from 100-120 PS, is there a way of telling which version the car will be? Did it depend on the year or the trim level?
I do love the Golf but the 1.4 petrol can be annoyingly sluggish at times, especially when it comes to hills and the odd time I'd have to overtake Struggles a bit on the motorway too unless you push it hard I know the upgrade to the 1.6 T-Spark doesn't seem like a big increase but I'm not in much of a rush to be honest, just want something a bit stronger
I'm a big lover of the VAG scene and a clean, OEM style, so no threat of the new boy putting on a massive body kit if I do get one
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imho the 147 is a little bit on the heavy side, especially if you get all the nice gadgets, like climate control (not just the regular aircon), leather seats, plus with all the safety features, so I'd go for the 2l engine
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Yeah they are heavy but klapanciusz you are on the right side of 200bhp, but the 156 is a bit quicker in the 1.6 but always felt the 147 was better planted on the road due to the weight but it will be a massive improvement on the golf power and driving wise.... if you have any tech question on it do feel free to pm me...
 
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Thanks for the feedback, just wondering is there a way of telling if the car is the 100 or 120 PS version? Was it increased in a certain year? The car I'm looking at is from 2006 and has a Ti badge on the back.
 
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I reckon your best option is to wait and get a good relatively low mileage 146 1.4/1.6 and Damien_C can help you out there being a fellow Corkonian. Not a 147 fan myself at all. My mate had a 146 1.4 and to this day he reckons it was the best car he ever had regarding practicality and everyday use. Then another friend had a 1.6 147 and the onboard comouter gave nothing but trouble and his wasn't the only one I heard doing that but maybe they were unlucky.
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Try the 147 forum in here for spec and power etc but you should also look up Carsurvey.org - Car Reviews. Very good website with owners feedback
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I'd go for a 146 too. You will be going down in the years but the 1.4 is a spectacular engine. Considering the size of it. If you ever want a spin in it let me know. You can see what you think of it.
 
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The irish market ones are 120 bhp but there are a few small technical differences but as said the 146 is a fun little car and has the real old school alfa soul too...
 
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Thanks for the feedback, just wondering is there a way of telling if the car is the 100 or 120 PS version? Was it increased in a certain year? The car I'm looking at is from 2006 and has a Ti badge on the back.

There were some 105BHP 147s sold in Ireland but not many IIRC they were badged Blackline or possibly Veloce & probably didn't have a great spec so they could be sold cheap.

I've a 1.6TS & love it but it could do with a 6th gear for motorway driving, other than that there's plenty power as long as you keep it at the right revs.
Also if your looking at a 2006 car it's probably due a timing belt as they need doing every 3 years or 36,000mls which ever comes 1st
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True like any zingy and free revving engine especially NA it needs to be in the right gear at the right time to be able to move.
 
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I dont know if there is enough pull in it for a 6th gear as I could see you dropping to 5th for motorway runs... but there is only a tiny amount of 105bhps probably only 70 or so but if you need any tech info do feel free to pm me
 
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Thanks for all the input everyone I'll make sure to ask about the timing belt. Going to take a look at it in the flesh tomorrow and maybe go for a test drive I'll let you know how I get on.
 
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Not sure if anyones mentioned it but I thought that if the redline is at 7000rpm its the 120 and if its at 6500rpm it the 105.

If you're allowed a proper test drive make sure you get her above 4000 rpm......thats when mine sings. Still find mine tremendous fun and I still look back when I walk away from her, cant help it

From my own experience I think you'll genuinely notice the bump in power, it might not be huge but you'll definitely notice. Throwing her through corners on good back roads is great but the main thing to remember is its all about the rev's!
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Went for a test drive today and loved it The noise after 4000 rpm! Can't fit anyone in the back seats, but hey, they can walk or take the bus. Passenger seat is for the girlfriend Boot isn't as big as the golf but it looks like I can just about fit my guitar amp in there, which is about as much as I'd ever have in the boot. On a whole though, really loved the car Every second I spent in it felt awesome.
Now I need to get the money together They are asking for €4000 with my Golf as a trade in which sounds reasonable.
I might be joining the Alfa club yet
 
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When you are buying always budget a few quid for a service and a cam belt along with any other little bits that it could need...
 
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As what Dave said budget for a cambelt change and a service as you can't be guaranteed these have been done correctly. And to be honest it's a small price to pay for a car that you have piece of mind is going to be grand for a couple of years.

One thing check the oil on a regular basis. Just incase it is burning a bit.
 
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look at Buy and Sell Anything in Ireland. Easy to Use - DoneDeal.ie search for 'Alfa'

a 1.8TS 156 is a great compromise, imho

2.oL are excellent engines.

1.6 is too wheezy for my liking...
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As what Dave said budget for a cambelt change and a service as you can't be guaranteed these have been done correctly. And to be honest it's a small price to pay for a car that you have piece of mind is going to be grand for a couple of years.

One thing check the oil on a regular basis. Just incase it is burning a bit.
I'll 3rd that, Although I spent €!"£$ on my 155 I have spent more money getting her fixed up. Alfas can have a habit have springing financial surprises now and again. For me and many others in Dublin when we buy an Alfa the first thing we do is bring it down to Ti Autos and get her checked out for any faults we may have missed when viewing her. So I think you should do the same with a good Alfa specialist
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Thanks again for all the info guys. I'm afraid the 2.0 Twin spark is out of the question as insurance would be too high for me. I think the 1.6 engine is grand anyway. Going around to other dealers asking about trade in prices and I'm being offered a much better price than the dealers than the place selling the 147, but none of those places had any 147s for sale, let alone one as nice as the one I test drove.
Looks like I might have to wait a while
 
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Was it the Ti @ KO'Ls you were looking at ? They had that for sale last year iirc in bandon
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Yep that's the one! Lovely car. Do you know how much it was sold for out in Bandon?
 
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I'm guessing it was never sold from Bandon as it was in KO'Ls Honda. I'd say it was just moved up to KO'L Cork, I'm sure those are the original for sale pics from Bandon

I can't remember how much they were asking for it back then
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buy this! be careful before you click on the link it's pure Alfa porn
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