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Alfa and their thermostats

Car is bloody freezing. Three Alfas and all with faulty thermostats. I replaced it on the GT I had and the 916. They do show 90°c but weren't/aren't that warm, well the GT wasn't I never use the Spider in the winter.

I long for a warm car.
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Every Alfa I have ever owned, with the exception of the Giulietta, has had the thermostat replaced as the very first thing I do to the car. That's 4 and counting now.

You get used to it
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I have had 15 Alfa's now, as well as 5 Fiats.

I would say that about 10 of the Alfas and All of the Fiats had a knackered thermostat at some stage in my ownership.

The one in my G is currently ok...
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It really isn't funny at £30-40 a time.
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It really isn't funny at £30-40 a time.
It's also a bit cold on these mornings. This (like the GT even after the thermostat replacement) and the 916 takes until I enter the work gates 18 miles later before there is much warm blowing through.
I do think the pollen filter on this 159 wants changing, just waiting for some half decent weather and time.

My brother warned me about crap heaters in Alfas, they are
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My 156 never had a crap heater, even when the stat was on the fritz.
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Never replaced one on any of mine...
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Heater in the GTV takes about 200 metres before it starts chucking out hot air, Giulietta a bit more, the 33 was fine after I fitted a new matrix (£5). 146 good heater and the 147 fine after a new thermostat.
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Spider is warm and cozy after about 5 minutes of easy unstressful driving.
Had to change the thermostat on the GT though, but not the 156 or the MiTo.
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Alfa heaters are ok, as long as the thermostat is working.

I think Fords have the best heaters though.
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Alfa heaters are ok, as long as the thermostat is working.

I think Fords have the best heaters though.
The heating, ventilation and demisting in our '99 Mondeo was spectacular. The A/C cleared inside in seconds, the heated screens shifted the ice, and the heated mirrors chucked out enough heat to melt the ice on the door windows.
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It really isn't funny at £30-40 a time.
197€ for an original part from my Alfa garage back when I had a GTV 2.0. And this was only for the f****** thermostat ...

I then bought also an original part from a second Alfa garage for 98€. So there ...

Got a Vernet Caloristat for my 1.6 147 for 20€ and works just fine.
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Alfa heaters are ok, as long as the thermostat is working.

I think Fords have the best heaters though.
Volvo.
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Standard ancient AC wax capsule type thermostat in her foreign jalopy, which is now nine years old, quick to warm up and maintain a nice cosy cabin temperature, and this coupled with a most effective AC system which the Sillyspeed most certainly never had.
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Heaters on all the cars I ever owned except the Alfas have been fabtastic.

The temperature gauge in the GT got to 90°C but it was still sheite.
Replaced (well not fitted by me, the garage, but it looks new) on the 916 and it still reads low and is not so warm. I can't be arsed changing it again.

159 was warm the day I bought it but the A/C did not blow cold (it still might not, it's been too bloody cold to check) but after it was re-gassed it now blows cold for yonks.
It's always showed about 60°C on the gauge. I have a wi-fi ODB connector and need to try that and the phone/app.

I love the Alfas that I've had/have but the heaters have been/are ****.

I'm not going anywhere, I'm just going.
Statements above are all my own opinion and not fact.
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Heaters on all the cars I ever owned except the Alfas have been fabtastic.

The temperature gauge in the GT got to 90°C but it was still sheite.
Replaced (well not fitted by me, the garage, but it looks new) on the 916 and it still reads low and is not so warm. I can't be arsed changing it again.

159 was warm the day I bought it but the A/C did not blow cold (it still might not, it's been too bloody cold to check) but after it was re-gassed it now blows cold for yonks.
It's always showed about 60°C on the gauge. I have a wi-fi ODB connector and need to try that and the phone/app.

I love the Alfas that I've had/have but the heaters have been/are ****.
Strange. The heater in my GT isn't bad at all.
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The Giulietta heater is pretty good.

The aircon is ok, but I have had better.
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Alfa heaters are ok, as long as the thermostat is working.

I think Fords have the best heaters though.
Plus their heated front windscreen-genius invention that!

+1 on Alfa thermostat.. Replaced on my old 156 and now due on the GTV, but mine does heat very hot before the stat went.
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Happy with the Giulietta, the 147 worked ok, must have been lucky. The Giulietta surprised me with how I can de ice the front windscreen with the air con recently. I'm guessing it uses its air con as a heat pump as it can turn out warm air with in about a minute sitting on the drive, ice just melts off the screen! Happy with mine.
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The GT warms up very quickly, though the 147 used to be useless.
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Heating and A/C isn't Alfa's forte... I've had loads and heating/AC has ranged from poor to average. All my BMWs (2 x E30, 2 x E36) have had better heating, the E36 M3 had waaay better A/C than any of my GTAs have done, my mate's E46 and later E92 diesel BMWs have had massively powerful heaters and ice cold A/C. My wife's Golf has amazing A/C, and pretty strong heaters too. And the heated seats are like thermonuclear weapons going off.

However, none of them have ever really grabbed me, so I'll wrap up warm and keep driving my Alfas

That reminds me, I need to order a 'stat for my 1.9 JTD 16v courtesy car. My wife's 185k Golf TDI has never had one in its whole life
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I find the A/C in the Giulietta pretty decent.

It is better than a Mk4 Golf, better than a BMW E39 and miles better than an Alfa 156

On the hottest day we had last year it was still too cold inside to have it running flat out.
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I need the A/C on in damp weather else the car steams up. However it's very cold and dry currently and I can have the A/C off. The heat in the cabin rises quickly. In fact I can even have recirculation on without it steaming up.
The temp gauge actually gets to 70°C Why the coldero utside temp and no A/C changes that I do not know. I understand the cabin temperature difference because the poor heat output is not cooled further by the A/C.
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The Spider warms up (interior heater) within 5 minutes and is roasting on full heat.

The MiTo heater on the other hand is rubbish - only just warm on full.
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