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No Tax on New Car..Sneaky Bar-steward

Well, about to take collection of my new Alfa 150 Ti tomorrow, cant wait.!

My wife has just asked me to check when her car tax is due on her Nissan and thought whilst I was there I was check on the DVLA website when the Alfa is due her Tax...

Only expired last October.

Ok I know I should have asked them, and I know I should have checked but with the new 'no tax disc in window' malarkey they could have told me it was due.

Frustrating as now I have to try and sort taxing the car a the 12th hour...

I reckon the dealer didn't tell me as they would have had to charge either more at the purchase price to tax, or take off the £99 for six months tax.

Anyway, a little annoyed but I suppose I should have checked.

All is forgiven, bring back the old paper disc eh!

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Apologies in advance/rhetoric - my grammar is shocking, bloody Stella to blame ha!
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The new tax system is a further fleece on car owners and the only benefit is that I have a clear windscreen.
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It doesnt matter if its taxed or not.. As soon as you buy a car the tax doesnt transfer anyway

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How much tax is now irrelevant. As soon as a car changes hands, any tax the car had becomes void, and the new owner then has to tax it. We do ours by rolling direct debit, so we don't need to remember when it runs out.
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It is not transferable but it does show how long it's been in stock ?
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Taxing it takes all of five minutes online. Do it by direct debit and you don't even have to stump up any money.
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Morning all, a bit embarrassing reading a post you written the night before whilst a wee bit tipsy.

Anyways, thanks for the comments and advice, I hadn't realised that tax is now non transferable.

I will certainly look into the direct debit way of paying though as this would certainly make things easier financially in the short term rather than paying a lump sum up front.

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Go to the dealer/seller, get the green slip and pop to the nearest post office.

As long as you have insured it first and it has an MOT that will be fine.

Probably best to time the purchase of a new car at the beginning of the month though so you don't loose out too much.
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Who needs a post office. When I bought my Brera I'd already got the insurance quote I wanted saved, so it was a simple matter of using the dealer's computer to pay for the insurance then straight on to the DVLA site and the RFL was paid for in about 5 minutes.

In my book it's a lot more simple than it used to be, but people need to know that tax isn't transferable if buying from a private seller. Not all buyers know and I suspect the same is true for sellers due to the number being advertised as x months of tax still in place. Dealers, though, should be prosecuted unless they make it 100% clear to buyers that the car is illegal unless taxed/insured before leaving the premises.
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If you buy a car privately who is to know it isn't taxed?

If you buy it with tax the tax won't get cancelled until either the seller cashes it in, or the vehicle ownership is transferred. This gives you plenty of time to drive a car home.
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If you buy a car privately who is to know it isn't taxed?

If you buy it with tax the tax won't get cancelled until either the seller cashes it in, or the vehicle ownership is transferred. This gives you plenty of time to drive a car home.
Who's to know? True, but if you have an accident.....

The tax becomes invalid when the sale takes place, not when the ownership change is recorded at DVLA. If you don't sort it before driving on the road you are driving illegally.
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The instant the seller transfers the V5C to the new keeper, any existing tax the seller had is void and they will automatically receive a refund of any unexpired new months. As the new owner you have no tax until you tax it - which is easily and immediately done online using the reference number on the green 'new owner' part of the V5C that you will get. You aren't going to get fined for being ANPR'd with no tax, in practice, provided you tax it within a day or few. On paper you aren't supposed to drive it untaxed, but nothing bad ever happens IME as long as you tax by the last day of the current month. Thereafter you would start getting automatic fines.

I did have it happen that a vehicle I owned was (unknown to me) reported as untaxed - I was late renewing it due to repairs I had to complete before I could MOT it. It was on the road, but could not be driven with 3 wheels. By the time DVLA got the report, I had already MOT'd and taxed it, within the same month. They sent me a letter saying all this and that they weren't going to prosecute me for not owing them any money, which was big of them.
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Well got my V5C/2 (green slip) and sat in the car at the dealership and immediately set up a direct debit and hey presto, car taxed straight away.

It should be made clearer though by salespersons, I probably should have realised this but I am sure a lot of people, particularly those who haven't bought a car for many many years would probably presume it was taxed if the nothing was said.

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It's been thoroughly debated on here Paul. and in the news.
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Yes, but Stella is a reasonable excuse.
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