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The Tail-End-Charlie Gap

Whenever I join an unexpected queue of traffic (Jam, roadwork lights etc) especially on blind bends etc
I always leave about a car's length between me and the car in front.
My reasoning being if someone slams into me at least I won't concertina into the car in front.

My rant is about cars behind that always seems to need to be 3" off my rear when they join the end
of the line. And if I edge forward, they too edge forward to close the gap.

WHY!?!?!?!


(Am I being too sensitive? )
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Last weekend coming back from the NEC the police were shutting the M60 just as we got onto it. I could actually see the front of the queue and the police car maybe 100 yards ahead. I was quite happy to just shut the car off and wait but no. We spent everyone spent the next ten minutes shuffling forward even though there was clearly nowhere to go. I think the logic is that every few inches gets you nearer to home.
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I normally leave about 1/2-3/4 of a car's length. Any more than that and there always seems to be some dick who absolutely needs to be in front of me.
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Since i got rear ended (ooh matron) whilst stationary in heavy traffic on the A102m blackwall tunnel approach i also leave a decent size gap.The hyundai company car that hit me required a new front bumper,headlamp and spotlamps but thanks to a towbar my rear end was unscathed
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An unscathed rear end is good.

Front ends are designed to crumple until there's coolant all over the road .
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I hate being the last car in a queue, especially on a higher speed limit road. You just know someone not concentrating can easily slam into the back of you
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You said, slam into the back of you
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The last thing you need is to be rear ended whilst waiting in a queue...
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My driving instructor (ex police) taught me to stop where I was able to see the rear tyres of the car in front. Then if you need to pull out for a u turn or pass there is plenty of space to manoeuver.
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Lets say you can see the vehicle approaching behind you, you can see the driver is looking downwards like he's reading something. You know he is unlikely to stop before rear-ending you. You put the car in gear and get out of the way of the oncoming vehicle but the car immediately in front of you gets the full impact. That car had a couple, two children and a dog in it. Should you have moved the car or got out of the car to get clear, leaving your car to take the impact and possibly saving lives in the car in front of you?
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Lets say you can see the vehicle approaching behind you, you can see the driver is looking downwards like he's reading something. You know he is unlikely to stop before rear-ending you. You put the car in gear and get out of the way of the oncoming vehicle but the car immediately in front of you gets the full impact. That car had a couple, two children and a dog in it. Should you have moved the car or got out of the car to get clear, leaving your car to take the impact and possibly saving lives in the car in front of you?
I don't think you would have the time to weigh all that up. It is likely you would either move if you had time or brace yourself if not.

The occupants in the other car probably wouldn't even enter your mind.
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I'd agree with Symon, way too fast to make those kind of plans
apart from, "BRACE FOR IMPACT!!!"
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Hypothetically lets say you did have the split second to make that decision.
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Modern cars are built to take impact with the fronts
crumpling to absorb/dissipate the energy of impact.

I reckon you'd be doing them a favour by taking the hit
up your rear and you going into them as both the guy
causing the accident and your cars' front would crumple
cushioning the impact twice as well as just the accident
causer going straight into the other car.


What was the question again...?
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Modern cars are built to take impact with the fronts
crumpling to absorb/dissipate the energy of impact.

I reckon you'd be doing them a favour by taking the hit
up your rear and you going into them as both the guy
causing the accident and your cars' front would crumple
cushioning the impact twice as well as just the accident
causer going straight into the other car.


What was the question again...?

Hopefully we'll never find out.
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Lets say you can see the vehicle approaching behind you, you can see the driver is looking downwards like he's reading something. You know he is unlikely to stop before rear-ending you. You put the car in gear and get out of the way of the oncoming vehicle but the car immediately in front of you gets the full impact. That car had a couple, two children and a dog in it. Should you have moved the car or got out of the car to get clear, leaving your car to take the impact and possibly saving lives in the car in front of you?
Been there. I stopped for traffic lights on the north circular (Neasden) when it became clear that the minibus behind wasn't going to. I tried to get into gear and move, but there wasn't enough time. The minibus hit me and I ended up across the other side of the junction, fortunately not hit by anything crossing. My mini totalled by insurance. This was my first weekend in London and I realised then that the red light in London is purely advisery

So in the above situation it would be brace yourself, no time for anything else
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Ha! I got rear ended on the North Circular at a set of lights once, somewhere around there too.
Shunted me into the car in front.

Guy behind tried make out it was the guy in front's fault who stopped for the red. #YeahYeah
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My driving instructor (ex police) taught me to stop where I was able to see the rear tyres of the car in front.
mine too. i'll admit to getting into the bad habit of not always doing that, though. I'll make it a New Year's Resolution
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If everyone were to do that traffic jams would be 50% longer.
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