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Lightbulb Fog! Lights?

Went out early this morning and it was very foggy.
I switched on dipped headlights and fog lights front and rear.
Noticed most other cars looming as vague silhouettes approaching through thick fog with no lights on.

When I got to Richmond Park for my constitutional the fog was even thicker and I was aghast that the numerous cyclists were almost unanimously suicidal in their lack of lights. I would say about 49% of car drivers also had no lights, 49% had side-lights, and only about 2% had fog lights on.


Itís a fairly safe bet that a good many of these idiots driving in thick fog with no lights will be the same ones I get stuck behind driving on crystal clear evenings through slow moving city traffic DAZZLING ME with their £Vcking fog lights!
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On the clubrun today, round these parts it was patchy fog all morning, albeit not particularly thick. Pretty well all of us had at least rear LED lights on, a few with front lights too (and they rode on the front).

I'd say the majority of cars had NO lights on at all. And we're talking about small country roads here. Pvicks!
 
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On the clubrun today, round these parts it was patchy fog all morning, albeit not particularly thick. Pretty well all of us had at least rear LED lights on, a few with front lights too (and they rode on the front).

I'd say the majority of cars had NO lights on at all. And we're talking about small country roads here. Pvicks!
On my way home tonight, in thick fog, i had the fore-sight to go through town, rather than risk the motorway ( turned out to be a good move )

I immediately came across some who had no rear lights on, none what-so-ever, so i assumed that they had no lights on at all. (2014 volvo suv)

I flashed them to let them know, but as I went past as they turned right at a junction, I saw that they had front lights on.

It could be that they had no idea the rear lights were off, but i thought modern cars were supposed to tell you about such trivial failures.

Anyhow, they did't get rear-ended by me, thankfully.
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In fog I light my car up like a Christmas tree.
 
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On my way home tonight, in thick fog, i had the fore-sight to go through town, rather than risk the motorway ( turned out to be a good move )

I immediately came across some who had no rear lights on, none what-so-ever, so i assumed that they had no lights on at all. (2014 volvo suv)

I flashed them to let them know, but as I went past as they turned right at a junction, I saw that they had front lights on.

It could be that they had no idea the rear lights were off, but i thought modern cars were supposed to tell you about such trivial failures.

Anyhow, they did't get rear-ended by me, thankfully.

That sounds like a weird fault. Are you sure they didn't just have the running lights on (that come on automatically with the ignition)?

In other words, they'd simply failed to turn on their lights?
 
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DRLs have a lot to answer for.
I just can't understand that:
If a car is fiited with DRL then if the lights aren't on, and the little headlight symbol on the dash is not on.
Why is this so difficult for people to understand/work with?

Over on the Ewok forum there were people moaning (of course) that DRLs should be front and
back to make sure people don't forget to put their light on.

WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

If they can't understand something as simple as how to put the lights on and off then
they shouldn't be on the roads!!!

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Lots of DRL equipped cars also activate the sidelights or dipped headlights when you unlock the car. The driver sees them on, gets in the car and drives, unaware that the lights have turned off.
 
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Equally annoying are the clowns who don't turn fog lights off, front and rear, when the fog has cleared.
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I just can't understand that:

If they can't understand something as simple as how to put the lights on and off then
they shouldn't be on the roads!!!
Maybe that's the reason for the Off-Roadin capability?
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Itís a fairly safe bet that a good many of these idiots driving in thick fog with no lights will be the same ones I get stuck behind driving on crystal clear evenings through slow moving city traffic DAZZLING ME with their £Vcking fog lights!
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Equally annoying are the clowns who don't turn fog lights off, front and rear, when the fog has cleared.
Yes indeed!
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Are these the same people who have their wipers going full tilt even though it stopped raining 10 minutes ago ? :headbang:
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I just can't understand that:
If a car is fiited with DRL then if the lights aren't on, and the little headlight symbol on the dash is not on.
Why is this so difficult for people to understand/work with?

Over on the Ewok forum there were people moaning (of course) that DRLs should be front and
back to make sure people don't forget to put their light on.

WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

If they can't understand something as simple as how to put the lights on and off then
they shouldn't be on the roads!!!
That's called buying a Volvo

Tell them they spent £30k on the wrong car ! :Giggle:
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I like the light situation on the Volvo; it means the missus can't forget to turn them on.
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That's called buying a Volvo

Tell them they spent £30k on the wrong car ! :Giggle:
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Was coming down the M6 last night , it was wet and traffic was slow so we decided to come off at 17 and the car in front did the same.
As soon as we got on the road to Sandbach the car in front slowed to 30mph, slower than the motorway was going which is why we got off!, and then turned on her rear fog-lights! There wasn't an issue with visibility , the rain had stopped!
So luckily for me, there was a set of traffic lights and I pulled alongside her. Wound down my window and beeped my horn to get her attention. Told her her foglights were on and she said fumbled around and turned them off.
So I pulled ahead of her and that's when I realised that as she came off the motorway and onto the A road, she had turned her lights to sidelights only and turned on the front and rear fogs!
Perhaps she may have come from a city that has lights everywhere but in this country dipped headlights are required!

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Was it a Ford? Their light controls are schite
and could befuddle the easily confused.
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Was it a Ford? Their light controls are schite
and could befuddle the easily confused.
TT4N not a ford, some sort of Kia something.
I doubt the girl driving had even passed a UK driving test.
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Was it a Ford? Their light controls are schite
and could befuddle the easily confused.
I've just worked out the fog light switches on the wife's Kuga and we've had it five months!
There's so much stuff to get to know how to operate. Maybe that's why she's recently reversed it into a post, hitting a reverse sensor head on .
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Some car manufacturers put the fog lights on the same stalk as the headlights and indicators, makes things difficult to see particularly if you're trying to find them in the dark. I preferred it when the foglight switch was on the dashboard near the radio and the hazard light switch. In those days though I remember 'foglights' was usually 'foglight' as I always seemed to only have one !
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Some car manufacturers put the fog lights on the same stalk as the headlights and indicators, makes things difficult to see particularly if you're trying to find them in the dark. I preferred it when the foglight switch was on the dashboard near the radio and the hazard light switch. In those days though I remember 'foglights' was usually 'foglight' as I always seemed to only have one !
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DRLs have a lot to answer for.

In fog I light my car up like a Christmas tree.
Only if the visivility is under 50 meters. that's a lot of fog though...
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Only if the visivility is under 50 meters. that's a lot of fog though...
In the uk it is 100m according to the highway code
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Rule 226. You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236).2 Oct 2015
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headlights at 100m, fog lights are not required at that time

headlights are on when thesun is low, or it's very overcast, in my case... and if it's getting dark, ofcourse...
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DRLs have a lot to answer for.
agree - since they became de rigueur, I've lost count of how many cars i've see leave petrol stations or supermarkets at night with just front DRLs on. I guess the facia is lit up, so drivers assume their dipped headlights are indeed on.

as for the fog - my own casual observation is that it'll always be white or grey cars/vans that drive with no lights on at all in the fog...just the colours you can't see when the visibility is poor.

And ChrisHendrix...you are right; the fog lights off in the fog brigade are the same group that drive with them on in the summer. I can't prove this of course, but I just know this is A Fact. I often wonder if they drive in the dry with their wipers on...it's the same logic

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