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Mooney Dining out with vegetarians

What a pain in the proverbial going out for a meal with meat-dodgers is.
Even worse in Spain over the last week.

You end up not going to good restaurants because there's nothing on the
menu the buggers fancy.


Vegans would be worse I suppose.


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You should've shown them a good pasture grazing field, said "There's your dinner, see you in a couple of hours".
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When they do find a suitable restaurant make sure you order the most non-vegetarian thing possible for yourself

A nice steak with blood running out of it should suffice.
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Just go to the restaurant of choice. Vegetarians rarely have the energy to argue.
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I was a vegetarian for years - still don't eat meat but I do now eat fish.

TBH eating out (in the UK at least) has never been a problem. I must admit it was difficult before I ate fish when I was in France - omelettes are great but not everyday.

I will quite happily sit with people eating blood oozing steaks - that's how I used to eat them and my mouth still waters when I see them. I just don't like the production methods. It is a personal thing but I couldn't care less what other people do.

How do I justify eating fish? I don't. Hypocrisy is no problem for me - probably the nearest I come to religion.
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I can understand why you would eat fish rather than meat, or at least some types of fish.

For a start Fish contains things which are hard to get from Vegetables. Omega 6 and 3 oils spring to mind, plus they contain lots of proten weight for weight.

Most fish isn't farmed either, so until they were caught the fish have had a happy life in the wild. Not like a farm animal which was purposely bred to be eaten, then has lived it's life in capativity.

I could probably go Pescatarian myself but I like Kebabs, Burgers and Sausages too much.
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Most fish isn't farmed either, so until they were caught the fish have had a happy life in the wild. Not like a farm animal which was purposely bred to be eaten, then has lived it's life in capativity.
Around 50% of fish is now farmed:

UK retailers now reliant on farmed fish - SeafoodSource.com

Which is more cruel, killing animals quickly or just leaving fish to die a slow death by suffocation?
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What a pain in the proverbial going out for a meal with meat-dodgers is.
Even worse in Spain over the last week.

You end up not going to good restaurants because there's nothing on the
menu the buggers fancy.


Vegans would be worse I suppose.


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Meat dodgers

My ex was veggie and we went for a city break in Madrid. Luckily she's pescatarian and the sea food was pretty good. Although when you asked for a seafood platter, pretty well everything came in a seemingly impervious shell and they gave you a chrome toolkit like something out of a car workshop to get the blighters out so you could eat them . All I wanted was a nice big juicy steak!
 
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Most fish isn't farmed either, so until they were caught the fish have had a happy life in the wild.
I like the sentiment of this, but every time I watch a nature programme I get less convinced that life in the wild is ever happy for animals.

Most animals (including fish) seem to spend their entire lives doing one of three things (1) avoiding being killed by one of their many predators, (2) trying to find a mate - and risking being killed by your own kind in the process, or (3) desperately seeking food to stop yourself from starving to death

At best - I think that equates to subsistence living.

It's much less Disney out there than it looks from what I can tell.

Without doubt the only animals with a true Disney life-of-riley existence are 99% of domestic pets in the developed world.

In my pecking order of life - if I was an animal - I would go (in a very tongue in cheek way may I add!):

1. Domestic pet owned by doting owner / pony owned by pony club child

Absolute doddle. No expense spared luxury and on call vet as required. You even get your tummy tickled

2. Any animal held in captivity by a legitimate and monitored wildlife programme

Have you seen some of those Panda films? It's like being part of the royal family!

3. In a zoo/aquarium

Yes it's boring, but nobody is trying to kill and eat me while I sleep - and I get 3 square a day. Petting zoo acceptable, but not a preference. Pesky kids.

4. On a farm where I am maintained for something other than being eaten

Sheep/Wool, Cow/Milk, Chicken/Egg etc. I just eat, sleep and grow stuff and in return for an uncomfortable sheering/milking on occasion I get a safe life and plenty of grub

5. Bred to be eaten but held in an ethical free-range environment

Everyone's got to die sometime. If I can get 3-5 years of good quality life, solid servings of grub, vetted and tended and not fearing for my life every 24 hours - then I'll take it

6. Out in the wild

Ok so I get to choose my lifestyle. But it's hard work - I'm hunted from day 1 by predators, attacked, hungry 99% of the time and there's no NHS Vet in the wild..... If I can't get my own food, I die. If I'm not careful 24x7x365, I die. If I get sick, I die. If I pick the wrong partner by mistake, I die.

Basically - every day I don't die is a win.

7. Factory bred for food/production

Misery. Undoubted. Least favoured option.
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Laura is a veggie so it can be hard sometimes to find somewhere to eat, unless we go somewhere Italian so she can have pasta or pizza it can be tricky.

Some of the nicer restaurants in the area do quite weird veggie food, well stuff that Laura doesn't like... things like Goats cheese (It's quite strong, surely not every veggie likes goats cheese?) She is quite fussy with veg aswell so it makes it even harder even if they have a couple of vegetable options.
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Yeah, Italian is generally the best bet.
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My GF does not eat pig. Not religious she just won't touch anything piggy.

In Italy recently it was a problem. I just ended up eating more pork and I'm not a fan usually unless it is bacon or sausage. She did not like to leave the plate in the B&B with too much food on. **** I'm surprised I don't oink.
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You eat everything the GF leaves on her plate, Tubby?
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You eat everything the GF leaves on her plate, Tubby?
I don't eat any lettuce, no.
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I don't even know where to go in Spain that is vegetarian... La carta solo vegetales si us plau. You'd be lucky to make it out of most of the little Catalan villages I know well 'intact' if you get my drift just for asking the question.

My sister was a vegetarian, then a vegan, still a hippy nut roast type of eater, I struggle to sit down at the same dinner table as her when she starts huffing and puffing over what is on my plate.
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My sister-in-law is vegetarian and teetotal, has been for as long as I've known her, 20+ years.

She used to be very judgmental as to what others had on their plates, but, not wanting to force her views when she started a family, has calmed it down a bit.

She's still the first to leave the table when we are out for a meal and drink, wanting to go home.
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My wife and I once went to a hotel in Kitzbuhel, the evening menu was spaghetti bolognese which seemed to be the only option. I explained that we were vegetarian and we were served a plate of spaghetti, no sauce, no alternative, just spaghetti !!!!! ???
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Laura is a veggie so it can be hard sometimes to find somewhere to eat, unless we go somewhere Italian so she can have pasta or pizza it can be tricky.

Some of the nicer restaurants in the area do quite weird veggie food, well stuff that Laura doesn't like... things like Goats cheese (It's quite strong, surely not every veggie likes goats cheese?) She is quite fussy with veg aswell so it makes it even harder even if they have a couple of vegetable options.


...luckily she's not quite so fussy with her taste in blokes .
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...luckily she's not quite so fussy with her taste in blokes .
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I find many veggies hypocrites, i generally point at their teeth and say what do you think those pointy teeth are for on each side of your jaw?

......Then they order veggie pasta and i have another go, Isn't pasta made using hen eggs? ......unborn baby chicks?

Usually ends up in me being called a w*&%#r or summit as i tuck into the only meat i ever eat, chicken breast.

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Surely in this egalitarian world if a meatie
went out with a group of veggies, the veggies
would go to a normal restaurant so that
the meatie would have a better choice of meal ... ?
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Surely in this egalitarian world if a meatie
went out with a group of veggies, the veggies
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the meatie would have a better choice of meal ... ?
What diet do they follow?
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They eat eagles .
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