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Madness Bloody Caravans

So there I am on the way back from picking up a 23 foot twin axle caravan (being towed by my little old 1.8 156 sw) and every bloody hill I come to I end up having to slow down cos some idiot in a brand new 4x4 with a 10 thousand litre turbo diesel engine that cost him more than I would spend on a house, towing a little 2 berth 14 footer cant keep the pace up and so forces me to change down to 4th grrrrr


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ps, i'm not a caravaner, its being stripped out to use as a transporter for racing
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ps, i'm not a caravaner, its being stripped out to use as a transporter for racing
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I only paid £200 for it, nothing in it so no way it could be used as a caravan :fingers:
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Errr. Not wanting to be a wet blanket, but I also own a 4x4 which I use for towing.
Once you've got used to it you tend to slow down and drive more carefully.
Just bad luck you ended up behind another tow vehicle I say.
Braking and cornering are vastly reduced when you are towing and speed is your enemy.
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Errr. Not wanting to be a wet blanket, but I also own a 4x4 which I use for towing.
Once you've got used to it you tend to slow down and drive more carefully.
Just bad luck you ended up behind another tow vehicle I say.
Braking and cornering are vastly reduced when you are towing and speed is your enemy.
Totally agree but when going up hill (motorway hill so very shallow) I would expect a 4x4 pulling a 14 ft caravan to pull away from me rather than slow from 60 to 35 mph

And unfortunately it wasnt just 1 either, there were several like this, no wonder carvaners have such a bad rep......my mrs was wetting herself at the fact that the air was turning blue on the way home with my expletives aimed at caravaners when I was also towing one
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That unfortunately is one of the problems of towing on a motorway. If you're not carrying enough speed (in a straight line) to overtake then you all end up running one behind another and the slowest is always at the front !
I seriously doubt a recent 4x4 would slow down to 35mph if he had nothing in front, i.e. there is a reason for him being so slow.
Problem is once you're at that speed its difficult to get on the outside lane and accelerate again (takes ages) as you've just experienced with a 1.8litre petrol engine. You had to stay behind because of traffic etc and could only pull out when safe (rare on a busy motorway) and probably would have slowed down many others when you finally got to overtake.
Put some music on and wait until you get to the track to drive fast.
Other people also have the right to tow their toys and houses around.
As already said, towing is nothing like driving a normal car, and best home safe than with a caravan stuffed up the back of your car.
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That unfortunately is one of the problems of towing on a motorway. If you're not carrying enough speed (in a straight line) to overtake then you all end up running one behind another and the slowest is always at the front !
I seriously doubt a recent 4x4 would slow down to 35mph if he had nothing in front, i.e. there is a reason for him being so slow.
Problem is once you're at that speed its difficult to get on the outside lane and accelerate again (takes ages) as you've just experienced with a 1.8litre petrol engine. You had to stay behind because of traffic etc and could only pull out when safe (rare on a busy motorway) and probably would have slowed down many others when you finally got to overtake.
Put some music on and wait until you get to the track to drive fast.
Other people also have the right to tow their toys and houses around.
As already said, towing is nothing like driving a normal car, and best home safe than with a caravan stuffed up the back of your car.
very true, but i overtook them anyway just dropped back and gave it some wellie to make sure I was up to middle lane speed before I overtook.....had one car full of blokes give me the thumbs up as I was overtaking cos I wasnt dawdling like the other 'carvaners'
Luckily the 1.8ts is quite a torquey little engine so didnt take much to pull her up to ....ahem.....60...ish
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What is the towing capacity of a 1.8 156 SW?
the way mine was going....about 5 million tonnes


just looked it up and apparently its 1.3 tonnes....luckily the 'van is 1.25 as standard but has been stripped out so all good
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Dropping back from 35mph? You must have stopped ! I know, I know, you have exaggerated the speeds.

Anyhow, I wish you luck driving with something hitched to the back of your car. Just remember, it wasn't designed to tow, so too much wellie will just tire it out faster. Incredibly faster.
Seems towing in England isn't as strict as over here if you can mod a caravan, but a bit of advice; check the tyres and brakes often and don't go over the allowable load or you're sure to have problems. And check the tyres for getting warm. some smaller ones blow when too hot.

No offense mate, just that towing isn't as easy as it looks.
You play the clutch an awful lot when manoeuvering and put loads more effort on the brakes and engine in general.

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just looked it up and apparently its 1.3 tonnes....luckily the 'van is 1.25 as standard but has been stripped out so all good
Ah but it's all about nose weight
 
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Ah but it's all about nose weight
its ok, I'm a fat bugger and the 'van is a twin axle so nose weight isnt so much of an issue
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If that worked me and Mr PG could tow a bus
 
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Dropping back from 35mph? You must have stopped ! I know, I know, you have exaggerated the speeds.

Anyhow, I wish you luck driving with something hitched to the back of your car. Just remember, it wasn't designed to tow, so too much wellie will just tire it out faster. Incredibly faster.
Seems towing in England isn't as strict as over here if you can mod a caravan, but a bit of advice; check the tyres and brakes often and don't go over the allowable load or you're sure to have problems. And check the tyres for getting warm. some smaller ones blow when too hot.

No offense mate, just that towing isn't as easy as it looks.
You play the clutch an awful lot when manoeuvering and put loads more effort on the brakes and engine in general.

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I spent a few years driving artics so i'm ok when it comes to pulling things

Also working in cornwall for a plant hire firm exposed me to all sorts of towing, including being made (by my employer) to tow a 2.5 ton swing shovel on a single axle trailer behind a transit....i left the company fairly soon after that
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Wouldn't get stuck behind mine, cruise normally set at 70 !!! (allegedly)
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Wouldn't get stuck behind mine, cruise normally set at 70 !!! (allegedly)
was that a challenge??? Maybe time to take a leaf out of top gears book and do a bit of caravan racing
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was that a challenge??? Maybe time to take a leaf out of top gears book and do a bit of caravan racing
Anything to get the damn things off the road.
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it seems theres a lot of people who have missed the irony of the original post
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i had a 17ft caravan that was 1700kg.

i used our 1.8ts 146 no bother, up to 90 in no time.

good engines they are too, until they go bang that is lmfao
 
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i had a 17ft caravan that was 1700kg.

i used our 1.8ts 146 no bother, up to 90 in no time.

good engines they are too, until they go bang that is lmfao
Until they go bang.....

It seems theres alot of peolple who have missed the irony of the original post.
Didn't get the irony there in your first post there mate, more like wanting to drive your car as if you were on a track, only you were towing a caravan. Towing is NOT like driving your average car,you'll (hopefully) soon find out.

Like alfamonkey71 says, when your engine goes BANG you'll probably be by the side of the road (If not in an accident) and wondering "what hell"...
Low geared 4x4's can move masses, high geared cars can trail but go BANG after a while.
Just take it easy with the towing with a 1.8.

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