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just rang up for a few quotes for a 60k service on my 156...

a certain well known alfa main dealer: £350 including a new set of spark plugs

a well respected indie alfa specialist down the road from said main dealer: £130 plus a fiver a go for spark plugs if needed


i know the main dealers have much higher overheads but that difference is criminal
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.... plus with altering the service schedule from 24 months to 12 month
on the new cars they must be creaming it.

 
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Use the trusted indy Al

Dealers are great for warranty work & for service if you have a company car.

I took my 159 to Intaservices in Leicester on Saturday. £143 all in including 2 litres of Selenia Star for topping up or for use at the next service. Local dealer wanted £260 + VAT
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It would be interesting to see an itemised quote rather than just the
bottom line so that a proper comparison can be made. If it's all in the
labour rate then it does seem to show a huge difference in overheads
but it may be you're not comparing like for like. Hard to say just on
those two figures though. Also do they both include VAT?



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Also do they both include VAT?
main dealer quote was inc vat, i'm presuming the indie was the same as they probably don't get many company cars coming in so won't be used to quoting exc vat prices?


main dealer gave me a run-down of what's carried out - all the standard stuff; oil change, new air & pollen filters etc with new spark plugs & new sump plug being the only 'extras' over and above normal. the vast majority of the cost will be labour charges no doubt. the most expensive part will be the 10 litres (or whatever amount it is) of selenia oil

anyway, i've booked in at the indie this wednesday (never in doubt, only got a dealer quote out of interest)

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Most Indies I've dealt with quote excluding VAT prices. Just an age
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even still, it's only £152.75
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What's their labour rate



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not sure, can't be that high assuming they're using decent oil
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BMC used to charge £40 + VAT an hour for Alfa work, so I reckon it'll be something similar. £130 is still a lot for oil & air filter though, seeing as services don't include braking systems anymore..

The way I see it, a 'service' should be EVERYTHING necessary to make the car safe to go on a journey. So brakes should be stripped down, pistons wound back into the calipers, and brought back out, everything nicecly coppaslipped, adjust the handbrake if necessary, and a test-drive to test suspension and steering. You're lucky to get a squirt of grease in your door hinges at most garages..

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BMC used to charge £40 + VAT an hour for Alfa work, so I reckon it'll be something similar. £130 is still a lot for oil & air filter though, seeing as services don't include braking systems anymore..

The way I see it, a 'service' should be EVERYTHING necessary to make the car safe to go on a journey. So brakes should be stripped down, pistons wound back into the calipers, and brought back out, everything nicecly coppaslipped, adjust the handbrake if necessary, and a test-drive to test suspension and steering. You're lucky to get a squirt of grease in your door hinges at most garages..

too true. audi were always very good - handbrake was always nice & tight, and the brakes were sharper too. always washed & vacuumed as well. ***** knows how much it cost though, not that i gave a sh*t cos they were all company cars back then


the indy garage said about an hour and a half's work - so let's call it £60 ish for labour, £70 quid for oil, filters etc. obviously a bit of a mark-up on the parts/materials but i can cope with that, he's got all his overheads to pay for - business rates, purchase of premises, tools & equipment, staff, office costs, tax & vat and so on. i don't begrudge the guy making a decent living at all so long as he & his staff do a good job.
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too true. audi were always very good - handbrake was always nice & tight, and the brakes were sharper too. always washed & vacuumed as well. ***** knows how much it cost though, not that i gave a sh*t cos they were all company cars back then
Probably cost a mint, all those things are seriously labour intensive.


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the indy garage said about an hour and a half's work - so let's call it £60 ish for labour, £70 quid for oil, filters etc. obviously a bit of a mark-up on the parts/materials but i can cope with that, he's got all his overheads to pay for - business rates, purchase of premises, tools & equipment, staff, office costs, tax & vat and so on. i don't begrudge the guy making a decent living at all so long as he & his staff do a good job.
No thats true, as long as you know what you are getting for your money then thats fair enough. And its good to go to them for the little things, cause when you need them for the big things they'll help you out. I got my last pair of Kumhos from BMC even though it cost ten pound a corner more than the cheapest online price inc fitting, they were always there when I needed them doing jobs I couldn't do myself for sensible rates..

Still think you should think about getting the brakes stripped down and cleaned, when were the last time they were done? I had to fit a new caliper to the back of my Mondeo for its MOT as it had completely seized, it was £70 exchange, but if you include fitting, bleeding, new fluid etc at a garage then thats going to be £200, almost worth paying an extra £50 for the apprentice to spend a day doing some proper servicing work, save a futue bill maybe, if you aren't doing the mileage to need pad changes every 2 years or so..
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Probably cost a mint, all those things are seriously labour intensive.
Audi quoted me £200 to change the brake pads on my wife's A3.

We didn't bother as we were just handing it back to them as a trade in.
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Audi quoted me £200 to change the brake pads on my wife's A3.


That is appalling.
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The most expensive part will be the 10 litres (or whatever amount it is) of selenia oil.
The JTS only needs about 5 litres of oil to fill the sump and the new oil filter.

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Assuming they're using decent oil.
Don't assume anything!! Buy your own oil, take it with you and watch them pour it into the engine.
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Trouble is, you'd be surprised how many "car buyers/users" really want to see, and expect to see, all the glossy trimmings in a main dealer premises. It somehow makes them feel "special". If you run a main dealers, and you want to attract the middle of the road, conservative buyers (and they are lucrative customers!) - you need to have the big glass display windows in the front, the showroom in a nice location, clean cars out the front, no oil stains on the forecourt, nobody visible in overalls, smiley receptionists, the potted plants, the capuccino machine, the glossy magazines on the table, the racks of brochures, the piped music, the clean carpets, the kids-play-area, the ECO friendly display, the free biccies in the service area, the front of shop staff in their logod jackets etc etc etc.

At that rate - I'm not surprised that all jobs start at 200 quid and go upwards because it must cost that just to process an order for 1 bulb by the time all the overheads are divided up. 200 quid to change brake pads? Not disgraceful if you start from the premise that EVERY job has to take it's share of 150 quid of overheads....

There is a place for main dealers, and a place for independents. And there is a "valid" (i.e. explainable) price difference for them too. We shouldn't get too hysterical comparing the two prices as they offer very different "experiences" (although at the end of the day they are just fixing you car!)

We should all just count our blessings that we are smart enough to use the independents and get the value from their pricing - but there are LOADS of others out there who are happy to pay for the experience of getting their car done in a "high street" fashion.
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Don't assume anything!! Buy your own oil, take it with you and watch them pour it into the engine.
Hammer, nail, head. Especially with the JTS as doesn't it use 10W60 fully synth as opposed to the more common 10W40 semi?

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There is a place for main dealers, and a place for independents. And there is a "valid" (i.e. explainable) price difference for them too. We shouldn't get too hysterical comparing the two prices as they offer very different "experiences" (although at the end of the day they are just fixing you car!)

We should all just count our blessings that we are smart enough to use the independents and get the value from their pricing - but there are LOADS of others out there who are happy to pay for the experience of getting their car done in a "high street" fashion.
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Hammer, nail, head. Especially with the JTS as doesn't it use 10W60 fully synth as opposed to the more common 10W40 semi?
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What Indie you using AL

That well know Dealer has quoted me £429 for a 48k service
 
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That well know Dealer has quoted me £429 for a 48k service


£429

they did my 48k service for about £230 iirc (you and your complicated diesels ) . the indie i used is a certain chap in a small cheshire town who changed the rad on your cup who i will definitely be using again
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The indie I used is a certain chap in a small Cheshire town who changed the rad on your cup who I will definitely be using again.
But did he use the correct oil?
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they did my 48k service for about £230 iirc (you and your complicated diesels ) . the indie i used is a certain chap in a small cheshire town who changed the rad on your cup who i will definitely be using again
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But did he use the correct oil?

no. he used shell helix something or other (10w40). tbh i'm not arsed about him using selenia racing - it's only recently that AR decided that selenia 20k wasn't their preferred oil any more and we should now use the 10w60 stuff. prior to that they always said the 20k was fine. also, shell helix is a bit easier to come by for me - halfords 2 miles away as opposed to AR dealer for selenia 50 miles away
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no. he used shell helix something or other (10w40). tbh i'm not arsed about him using selenia racing - it's only recently that AR decided that selenia 20k wasn't their preferred oil any more and we should now use the 10w60 stuff. prior to that they always said the 20k was fine. also, shell helix is a bit easier to come by for me - halfords 2 miles away as opposed to AR dealer for selenia 50 miles away
Lucas also do a 10w60 synthetic 5 litres for about £25, at my local motor factors.
Took mine to main dealers for 1st service (4th year for my bella) ouch I'm so dumb thort it'd look better in service book (for re-sale) but I'm not sure I could part with her now
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no. he used shell helix something or other (10w40). tbh i'm not arsed about him using selenia racing - it's only recently that AR decided that selenia 20k wasn't their preferred oil any more and we should now use the 10w60 stuff. prior to that they always said the 20k was fine.
The JTS has always required 10w 60.
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