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BBC NEWS | Business | EDF agrees to buy British Energy


This bloody disgrace is embarrassing.

Selling off state assets that are economically and strategically
vital to the future survival of the UK to a foreign government!?

Despicable.
 
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But it's ok because centrica will have a 25% stake in the nuclear power stations
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Brill, that gives Gordon £4.5 Billion more of taxpayers money to waste.
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BBC NEWS | Business | EDF agrees to buy British Energy


This bloody disgrace is embarrassing.

Selling off state assets that are economically and strategically
vital to the future survival of the UK to a foreign government!?

Despicable.
NOt true, Gordon is a europfile, just tranferred ownership to spite the new government and negate a public vote. Very old L.
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Gordy needs the money ! His (our) debt repayments make Northern Rocks look like small beer
We're paying there's as well.
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NOt true, Gordon is a europfile,
Got nothing to do with be pro- or anti- Europe.

I'm Pro Europe and think it's a typical uk.gov
short-termist sell-off ****-up.


Bet they don't "sell" the decommissioning part and end
up paying for that themselves. Dicks.
 
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I agree totally with the sentiments here.
Their Chief Exec says he is delighted with the deal; he would be - these guys have been taking the right p**s out of the UK ever since they set foot here.
How about this? 450 to "reconnect" a street light that has been hit by a car! Pay in advance, now, and we'll come and do it in about 6 months time! Maybe we won't have it done then...
That's OK, it's still 450 to "disconnect" it!
20,000 to "connect" a substation that a contractor has supplied and fitted! Again, pay us now and we'll come and do it when we get around to it.
They have a monopoly and they know just how to milk it.
They are the biggest bunch of scheisters outside of the City of London.

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Nev Stop posting threads I agree with you on, I miss our disagreements.

Spot on though this has got to be one of Browns dirtiest tricks to date, New Labour !! Old Tory !!
 
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Nev Stop posting threads I agree with you on, ~
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Got nothing to do with be pro- or anti- Europe.

I'm Pro Europe and think it's a typical uk.gov
short-termist sell-off ****-up.


Bet they don't "sell" the decommissioning part and end
up paying for that themselves. Dicks.
I'm also pro-europe, as in free market, would just rather not be governed from there. If a market partner i.e. French company buys a British asset what grounds do we have for complaint?

If we want to be part of the club, then we have to play by the rules, unfortunately we only have a 1 in 30 say as to the composition.

Selling off our gold reserve was the one that really hurt.

I also agree with your sentiments but how can they be justified?
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Last one out the country turn off the lights... don't want to run up a huge electric bill with the French do we
 
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Last one out the country turn off the lights... don't want to run up a huge electric bill with the French do we
Don't worry I'm sure they'll just cut us off
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The French buy our electricty over production cheaply in the summer and sell it back at twice the price in the winter. Didn't we try something similar with north sea oil.

As a nation we whinge about the weather, the French have an affair.

That really galls.
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And another thing....

Royal Navy won't fight pirates 'in case they claim asylum' ? The Register

Why are the French Navy allowed to engage/kill pirates but not the Royal Navy !?!


More uk.gov wishy washy when it comes to real problems that need solving.
 
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The problem is Nev, that you have to look at the long term issues here. These "poor" pirates - only armed with RPGs and Kalashnikovs, may well be severely traumatised, following their encounter with a Royal Navy frigate. They may have seen their friends killed or injured, in previous encounters with other naval forces. Were we to make any kind of contact with them, then it would be our noble duty to provide counselling, benefits and free housing. They may also be guided towards the following websites:
www.pirates in distress.nuts.uk
www.rapeandpillage/countryadmitsall/.loopy.uk
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And another thing....

Royal Navy won't fight pirates 'in case they claim asylum' ? The Register

Why are the French Navy allowed to engage/kill pirates but not the Royal Navy !?!


More uk.gov wishy washy when it comes to real problems that need solving.
This ****ing country makes my blood boil
 
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The problem is Nev!!

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Today's French lesson:

Ta gueule! ... Shut it!


 
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If a market partner i.e. French company buys a British asset what grounds do we have for complaint?
EDF is still partially state owned.
 
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EDF is still partially state owned.

I would say "majority" owned given that fr.gov own 80% of it!!! ... so let me get this straight, other governments in the world are busy "nationalising" (us.gov is in the process of buying ALL there banks) ... and we're busy selling it off
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this nationalistic rubbish is getting wearisome...
britain's nuclear stations pump out up to 20% of the nation's electricity requirements at any given moment..
there is NOT the necessary technical skill, know how or motivation in this country at the moment to replace these reactors .the french are the leading players in civil nuclear energy utilisation in the world...they have it all..the tech, the cash..the brains.
the 8 reactors sold to EDF and Centrica date back to the 1950s...
to continue running them without replacment is morally reprehensible, irresponsible and financially breaking.
NOBODY else offered to buy those reactors...nobody else has offered to replace them with modern, efficient energy production...not one single "patriotic" company...
4 new reactors will be built providing you and me with light and heat for generations to come...
it may give EDF a large market share...and may cost pennies more to you and me per week...but to compare that to the cost of haulling ageing reactors form the stone age to comply with ever more stringent regulation would cost 5-10 times more...and that would be out our own pockets...
so the french have done us a favour...
we should be biting their hand off for this..
it makes us less reliant on Russo-Caucasus oil and gas which we ill become more dependent on in future and leaves our energy requirements less open to the vagaries of world markets and disputes..
...Nev...once upon a time Britain led the world in nuclear energy production and know how....but that time has gone...and there's no poitncrying now..its the fault of nobody but ourselves that another nation's goverment owned energy co. is coming to our rescue...thats what this is...a real rescue...

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this nationalistic rubbish is getting wearisome...
Ummm I don't think you could accuse me of being nationalistic.

I just think it's a disgrace that the UK has thrown away it's lead
in nuclear electricity generation. At the time of the CEGB the UK
was right at the top of the heap. The fact that it is now still only
around 20% of capacity is yet another scandal.


Now they've introduced this CO2 trading scam they need to find
a way to get their emissions down and are not only importing nuclear
tech from a foreign power but are actively selling it off/giving control
over to a foreign government. Makes no long term sense.
 
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EDF is still partially state owned.
Both Germany and France are outward looking whilst inward thinking and we fall for it every time. Seventy % of the regulatory crap that pours out of the EC originates from countries that comply as little as possible.

Tax avoidance in Italy is a national pass-time, we bleat as they make hay. And they all have better weather
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Tax avoidance in Italy is a national pass-time, we bleat as they make hay. And they all have better weather
And make fine cars as well...

For Italian tax avoidence and other interesting Italian related reading I'd recommend Amazon.co.uk: The Dark Heart of Italy: Travels Through Time and Space Across Italy: Tobias Jones: Books
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I would say "majority" owned given that fr.gov own 80% of it!!! ... so let me get this straight, other governments in the world are busy "nationalising" (us.gov is in the process of buying ALL there banks) ... and we're busy selling it off
Isn't it a bit strange, that when I mention the dreaded word "nationalisation", I get sarky comments from all and sundry. I totally agree with what Chris has said, and further to Chris's point about the US and their banks, aren't we nationalising our banks, by bailing them out to the tune of billions of pounds? It is interesting to note, that Barclays have set aside a huge amount of money to pay bonuses to Lehmanns "big bankers" in the US, whilst ignoring the salary demands of the ordinary staff in this country. This just goes to prove, that our government will embrace capitalism when it suits them - makes huge profits for the elite - and will adopt an almost communist view, with regard to sharing the massive losses with the rest of us. How can we defend such a situation?
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