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"Solutions"

I get really annoyed with companies calling themselves "Whatever Solutions" Solutions suggests that there is a problem requiring a "solution".

Today I travelled behind a van with signs saying " Allglass Window and Glazing Solutions" What planet are these people on? OK imagine a typical 'phone call:-

Customer (C) "Hello is that Allglass - I have a problem"
Allglass (A) "Yes what's the problem?"
C - I have this house, yeah, and it's got a large hole in the wall. It's quite nice because it let's the light in - but I get cold in the winter and the rain comes in"
A - yes I can see that you have a problem there.
C - Is there solution you could suggest?
A - Well - you could block it up - that is one solution - we have a team of expert hole blockers who could remove the offending building orifice for you at a very reasonable cost.
C- Hmm that would work I guess but is there a solution which would allow light in?
A - Well - another solution would be to insert a glass panel in your hole. It would need a surround and would cost a bit more.
C - Would that stop air coming in?
A - Yes but we can design one with hinges so that you could "open" it - that design is in the early stages of development but could be the solution to your particular needs?
C - Wow that's amazing - seems just what i am looking for - what do you call this development btw?
A - A Window.

Grrrrrrrr.

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There used to be a regular column in
PrivateEye.

Hopefully these will die out soon.
 
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when I first went freelance about 10 years ago I called myself 'Creative Solutions'
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There used to be a regular column in
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Hopefully these will die out soon.

Used to read Private Eye - stopped about 10 years ago so have missed the references - damn and I thought that I was being original.

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when I first went freelance about 10 years ago I called myself 'Creative Solutions'
Go on - what do you call yourself now?
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when I first went freelance about 10 years ago I called myself 'Creative Solutions'
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hey it was a good 10 years ago
I am employed now Paul - I do still freelance but I am not going to share the name with you you have had enough laughs at my expense tonight
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* Hangs his head low in shame *


My company name is "CDS Software Solutions Ltd"



But then I do make problems and then provide solutions for them ... at great expense!!!
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You probably have not heard of Paul Rand but he was a very very successful graphic designer from the US he did many of the brand identities that we see often (IBM etc) he always said before he would start designing anything he would turn the brief into a problem so then he could find the solution - I think I got a bit too wrapped up in it
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Hmm - the very word "solutions" seem to be an antidote the prefacing word.

So "Creative/Software Solutions" seems to suggest that we can stifle creativity and software.
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I think I got a bit too wrapped up in it
Wrapped up? Hmmmm......



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you have had enough laughs at my expense tonight
Aaaw - sorry - just log on to my website:-


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Hmm - the very word "solutions" seem to be an antidote the prefacing word.

So "Creative/Software Solutions" seems to suggest that we can stifle creativity and software.
not really - its was more the case of finding the right brand solution for the need. He wrote loads about it but its getting late and I cant remember but he must have been onto a good thing, he used to charge £100k to produce a logo and identity annd he had people lining up to use him. And some of the logos are still in use 50 years later, they have totally stood the test of time my company name on the other hand lasted about 10 months until I had to change it
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Wrapped up? Hmmmm......



true, but being slightly mental does help in my job
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not really - its was more the case of finding the right brand solution for the need. He wrote loads about it but its getting late and I cant remember but he must have been onto a good thing, he used to charge £100k to produce a logo and identity annd he had people lining up to use him. And some of the logos are still in use 50 years later, they have totally stood the test of time my company name on the other hand lasted about 10 months until I had to change it

"brand solution" shudder.

"some of the logos are still in use 50 years later....." But most are not?

Bit like taking 10000 random 'photos - some are bound to be good.

Ok, Ok - for God's sake shut up Paul. I will.

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actually sorry my post above is wrong (told you its getting late) he used to charge $100k not £100k - before someone corrects me
but when you keep in mind that those figures were being charged back then you see why I want yo follow in his footsteps
so anyone want to pay me $100k to produce a logo?
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My company is Beejay Electrical Solutions.

Most of my customers phone me up and say 'I've got a problem with my lights / shower / sockets etc' so I provide the solution! I know its a bit of a business name cliche at the moment, but it's a bit more original than 'Beejay Electrical Installations' or 'Contractors' which are the usual (boring) trading styles.
 
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"brand solution" shudder.

"some of the logos are still in use 50 years later....." But most are not?

Bit like taking 10000 random 'photos - some are bound to be good.

Ok, Ok - for God's sake shut up Paul. I will.

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Paul, it is nothing like that I am sorry to say. He didnt produce 10000 brand identities and there was nothing random about any of his work he always had a clear goal, you dont get much more successful in that line of work. Look him up
also its is rare for a business to go that lenght of time without tweaking their logo/identity times change businesses grow, new directors takeover with new ideas etc... But some of his work is timeless and could have been created yesterday
So you see an identity/brand is nothing like a photo - little bit more research is needed on your half me thinks









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Re: "Solutions"

Personally I don't see anything wrong with having the word 'Solutions' in a company name. If you seek out a company, for whatever reason, it's because you have a problem, and that company will hopefully solve it.

I think it makes companies (especially plumbers, etc) sound more professional than BJ Jones Ltd or whatever.
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Personally I don't see anything wrong with having the word 'Solutions' in a company name. If you seek out a company, for whatever reason, it's because you have a problem, and that company will hopefully solve it.

I think it makes companies (especially plumbers, etc) sound more professional than BJ Jones Ltd or whatever.
So what solution company do you work for again??





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Re: "Solutions"

My old company was :

Ventilation Solutions

when I went Ltd I changed it to :

Advanced Ventilation Solutions Ltd

What's your problem

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I remember many years ago the then British Rail had an advertising campaign showing a poster of a rail tanker wagon underneath which was written:-

"Transportation of chemicals - is it a solution?"


Made me laugh.
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My old company was :

Ventilation Solutions

when I went Ltd I changed it to :

Advanced Ventilation Solutions Ltd

What's your problem


On a side note ... did uk.gov trick you into becoming ltd by offering that lucrative first £10k free of tax? ... and then remove it again once everyone had changed?
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Has anyone ever started a company that does eye drops called Solution Solutions?
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On a side note ... did uk.gov trick you into becoming ltd by offering that lucrative first £10k free of tax? ... and then remove it again once everyone had changed?
Yep !!!

Does remove an element of personal liability though !
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