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Modern cars and their keys......

Having read the umpteenth thread on the 147/156 forum of another poor sod paying out hundreds of pounds for a new key/recoding exercise - is anyone else ready for a rant on the complexity of car ignition keys?!? And I don't just mean Alfa - I mean all moderns.

I'm sure manufacturers will claim "security" as the big driver here - but in all honesty do we really need transponders in our key fobs, unique code switching between car and key, electronic gadgetry to match keys to locations etc etc

I don't recall seeing car theft figures dropping off to nothing since the demise of "ignition keys" and the introduction of hundreds of pounds worth of key/decoder/immobiliser gadgetry.

I keep a few classic cars and on my pricey ones from the 60s/70s which have basic keys and ignition switches I have fitted aftermarket immobilisers which are Cat 1 tested and the people who fit them say that these make the car just as safe as moderns with all the gizmos - although of course any motor is nickable if people want it bad enough. The immobilisers come with two fobs AND the Scorpion ones I use charge a flat 50 quid for replacement fobs provided you have your ID (and they will also tell you that the 50 quid cost is to make you take care of your fobs rather than any relevance to what it costs them to knock out a new one - which is pennies).

Personally I think manufacturers and main dealers love the extra income stream that comes from the gadgetry of this whole key situation (and I speak as someone who has paid out almost 700 quid for replacement "transponders" for a VW and an Audi after my wife had her handbag nicked with her keys in it).

Bring back little metal keys and ignition barrels please! Leave the immobilising to us - we can even decide to stick to a Krooklock if our cars are worth less than a grand!
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Re: Modern cars and their keys......

You can open most old minis, and old escorts with a door key.

I don't think it's just about the car, it's about contents too. Sure you could fit your own immobiliser, but that's not going to stop someone getting into the car and nicking your cd collection and tom-tom.
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They'd need to nick a lot of CDs and at least a couple of TomToms before it would cost the same as having new sets of gadget filled keys/fobs/transponders made up.

And anyway - if you leave valuables around like TomToms then the old glass isn't much of a deterrent is it?
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Re: Modern cars and their keys......

Normally would-be thieves checkout the sucker-pad marks on the windscreen, then they know to look in the glove box. Fair point about the glass though. You might be on to something. If we had regular locks, then they wouldn't have to break the window, they could just open the car and thieve what they wanted. Save on a bit of hassle there
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I wouldn't want just a little metal key securing my car.

And why should I fork out to have aftermarket security added?
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