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Grrrrrr!

A section of the A414 near where I live has been 'seen to'. It's a busy 2-lane derestricted speed-limit dual carriageway between Hertford and Harlow. I drove in to work one morning to find that overnight they had sprayed wet tar all over the road and applied 15 tons of loose chippings on top. Do they think in so doing, that they are deemed to have resurfaced the road?!! I don't know whether to laugh or cry!

It's now 5 days since they did it and there is still a 10mph speed limit on it. I have witnessed 2 broken windscreens so far and when I rode into work on the bike I found I was surfing on the pile of loose chippings that had been thown to the side of the road.

Who is the cretin who decided to do this, that's what I want to know!

And to cap it all, the surface wasn't actually that bad - there are many nearby roads with potholes you could easily fall into and take a week climbing out of.
 
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Grrrrrr!

A section of the A414 near where I live has been 'seen to'. It's a busy 2-lane derestricted speed-limit dual carriageway between Hertford and Harlow. I drove in to work one morning to find that overnight they had sprayed wet tar all over the road and applied 15 tons of loose chippings on top. Do they think in so doing, that they are deemed to have resurfaced the road?!! I don't know whether to laugh or cry!

It's now 5 days since they did it and there is still a 10mph speed limit on it. I have witnessed 2 broken windscreens so far and when I rode into work on the bike I found I was surfing on the pile of loose chippings that had been thown to the side of the road.

Who is the cretin who decided to do this, that's what I want to know!

And to cap it all, the surface wasn't actually that bad - there are many nearby roads with potholes you could easily fall into and take a week climbing out of.

Being a roadie too, I have noticed this loads. I live in the middle of the New Forest and we were supposed to be doing a local race near a place called Nomansland. Due to the stupid council, and their "resurfacing" it was cancelled...but the road wasn't that bad in the first place!
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I thought major roads were meant to have Tarmacadam surface, not be 'dressed' (Highways Agency terminology) with wet tar and loose chippings, like a country back-road.
 
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they shouldnt be allowed to get away with using traffic to do the job of a road roller, those chipping are a menace, do the sodding job properly and roll the road afterwards
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Beat this VO2.....milk ras 1986.... get to the foot of the Gap of Mamore, 1 in 4 for approx 1mile..... had been resurfaced with tar & chippings the day before .....oh what fun we had
 
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They do that to the roads around this way as well.

Its a good cheap job for them. Someone should sue the council for paint repairs and a new windscreen.
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Beat this VO2.....milk ras 1986.... get to the foot of the Gap of Mamore, 1 in 4 for approx 1mile..... had been resurfaced with tar & chippings the day before .....oh what fun we had
You rode the Ras? Hats off to ya! All the guys at the back got pebbledashed then?

I rode a race once, I was in the break and going like a train - one of the guys was a very good rider but had been in France watching the Tour for a couple of weeks and had lost his edge. As he pulled off from doing his turn he took his foot right off the gas and took my wheel away as I was about to come through. I went down on freshly laid chippings and scraped so much skin off all my fingertips, you couldn't see any fingerprints - the pain was unbelievable .


Funny thing was, just as I was starting to contemplate a life of crime and always getting off Scot-free, when the skin eventually grew back, all my 'prints had returned - isn't that a curious thing?
 
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Grrrrrr!

A section of the A414 near where I live has been 'seen to'. It's a busy 2-lane derestricted speed-limit dual carriageway between Hertford and Harlow. I drove in to work one morning to find that overnight they had sprayed wet tar all over the road and applied 15 tons of loose chippings on top. Do they think in so doing, that they are deemed to have resurfaced the road?!! I don't know whether to laugh or cry!

It's now 5 days since they did it and there is still a 10mph speed limit on it. I have witnessed 2 broken windscreens so far and when I rode into work on the bike I found I was surfing on the pile of loose chippings that had been thown to the side of the road.

Who is the cretin who decided to do this, that's what I want to know!

And to cap it all, the surface wasn't actually that bad - there are many nearby roads with potholes you could easily fall into and take a week climbing out of.
mate, i'm with you 100% on this.

The roads where i live are worse than those in third world country. Last year they 'surface dressed' (wtf?!!) the road. This means nothing more than chucking loose chippings on it. Did they fill the suspension-breaking holes? God no! Did they smooth out the parts where they've repaired the repairs of repaired road? Nope. So you still an abysmal road, but now one that will break your windscreen as well as your suspension. Last week, they 'surface dressed' it again. What the point of that?

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...I think it's all about 'ring-fenced budgets' g, and 'targets'. Technically, they can say they have 'resurfaced' the road whereas infact as you say, they have neglected the road for another year, spent their budget in a false economy, wasted motorists' time and wrecked their cars. Another reason to drive round in a gas-guzzling tank, it's the only way to survive!
 
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i'm starting to feel the same. I even caught myself looking at the new Volvo XC60 with sheepish-admiration this week. Oh my goodness, I like an SUV! It felt like i'd been caught looking at porn

But if it's a means of sticking two fingers up to the punishment - sorry, Government...i often get the two confused... - then it's gotta be worth a look. Especially if they make a V8

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i'm starting to feel the same. I even caught myself looking at the new Volvo XC60 with sheepish-admiration this week. Oh my goodness, I like an SUV! It felt like i'd been caught looking at porn

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There's a section of the A24 which I travel on fairly regularly which has recently been resurfaced....thing is, before hand, there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with it, no potholes, no ridges, tramlines, nothing...and now it's covered in a very rough surface (I guess for better traction in the wet) but I can see it breaking up and leaving loose chippings in no time at all.
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Got some chips on the Ti last Sunday (rear arch) on similar "roads"
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Surface dressing on roads is to prolong the life of the road - a cheap way of doing it while helping skid resistance. To reconstruct a road is extremely expensive. I work as a highway inspector and we draw up schemes for resurfacing. surface dressing and heavy duty slurry sealing are a cheap option - we rarely if ever tho would surface dress a major road.
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Yes, but it's not your decision as to what work gets done based upon your advice, it's the bean-counters and local politicians who manage to screw things up...
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Surface dressing on roads is to prolong the life of the road - a cheap way of doing it while helping skid resistance. To reconstruct a road is extremely expensive. I work as a highway inspector and we draw up schemes for resurfacing. surface dressing and heavy duty slurry sealing are a cheap option - we rarely if ever tho would surface dress a major road.

This is my point entirely, I've never known a major road such as this to be 'dressed' with loose chippings. Frankly, I think it's pants.

Heavy duty slurry sealing sounds interesting - a great way to kill 2 birds with one stone by recycling raw sewage!
 
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they're all over the place now, they've done to this to my 'route' I do in the eves on my bike, now the first mile is aweful to ride on, so I've taken to going slower.
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The problem is even if you go slow if someone comes the other way fast, especially if its a truck or bus the stones are sucked up and thrown at your car/bike.
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*STOP PRESS*

Nasty accident on that very stretch (original post) 1st thing this morning, on the other carriageway to me, heading towards Harlow. 2 bashed up cars, Police and Ambulances in attendance, enormous tailback in the process of backing up. I didn't get a chance to see if one of the victims had a broken windscreen, seems too much of a coincidence to me though!
 
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Surface dressing on roads is to prolong the life of the road - a cheap way of doing it while helping skid resistance. To reconstruct a road is extremely expensive. I work as a highway inspector and we draw up schemes for resurfacing. surface dressing and heavy duty slurry sealing are a cheap option - we rarely if ever tho would surface dress a major road.
The road wouldn't have needed to be 'reconstructed' in this case, far from it, there were no nasty ruts, ridges or dips in the underlying roadmetal. What's it called when they take off the top 1" or so of Tarmacadam, 'roadfiling' or summat? It leaves a nice rough but consistent surface, ready to take a thin, fresh layer of tarmac, giving a brand new, ready-to-drive-on surface.

Am I going mad, or have I seen long stretches of road - a couple of km's or so - resurfaced in such a way in Spain, in literally just a couple of days? It always seems to take so long in this country, such a rigmarole.
 
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fast roads should be dont in hot rolled asphalt which is a long job - this gives the best wearing surface and best skid resistance. As you say vo2max - if the sub base and base of a road is sound then the top 50mm of the carriageway can be planed off and this can be done very quickly then resurfaced. The problem is - as with our council - these councillors who have no idea of road maintenance keep cutting our budget as prices of materials keep rising. They prefer to spend money on employing people to fine people for smokin in pubs and littering etc, things they can put in the press to make themselves look good whilst the maintenance of roads which is one of the most important aspects of what a council can do is undermined and ignored.
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Am I going mad, or have I seen long stretches of road - a couple of km's or so - resurfaced in such a way in Spain, in literally just a couple of days? It always seems to take so long in this country, such a rigmarole.
They even chew up the dug-up bits and reuse it.


You have to remember that on the continent they still
know how to build new roads because they get plenty
more practise than in the UK.

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It beats me how the council can end up being responsible for repairing the roads. All roads should be repaired by the highways agency, through the road tax we pay, not just the major ones.
The council should be dealing with things like housing, sports, rubbish collection etc..

Its all messed up and costs taxpayers much more than it should do.
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They even chew up the dug-up bits and reuse it.


You have to remember that on the continent they still
know how to build new roads because they get plenty
more practise than in the UK.
I think there is more truth in that than you realise Nev, having not lived here for a few years!

Every winter I go to Spain for 2 weeks to get (knocked off my bike by a dopey Spanish white van driver) a training camp in and the speed with which they fix/build roads amazes me.
 
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