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Britains Nuclear Energy.

Relaxing over a fortified coffee, crumpets and the Daily Mail, yeah, I know, sad, came upon a little snippet which goes something like this :

" Gordon Brown is to hold talks with the Saudi's next week with the intention of getting them to invest their spare cash in our Nuclear Industry. "

Am I just being a fool to think that this is a crazy idea ? The Western World is already held to ransom by oil/energy producing countries and now there is a proposal to sell another source of energy to foreign investors so we can be stitched up again. Surely we should ensure that we keep control of as much of our energy supplies that we can ?

BTW, this is NOT a rant about Saudi, I would feel the same if the proposal was to sell to one of our European neighbours or anybody else.
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Britain has gone from the
forefront of nuclear generation
to a sad backward state in less
than 30 years thanks to succesive
governents mismanaged privatisations,
lack of energy policy and general lack
of balls.


I find it a disgusting waste of UK
talent and expertise.

I dread to see what is going to
happen in 2015 when all but Sizewell B
will be end-of-lifed.
If you're lucky they may build some
more Russian gas fuelled capacity and
the lights will stay on.

 
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Why would Saudi Arabia want to help us out of not paying excessive am mounts for oil. It sounds like Gordon Brown has lost the plot.
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Why would Saudi Arabia want to help us out of not paying excessive am mounts for oil. It sounds like Gordon Brown has lost the plot.
That's assuming that he ever had it, which I doubt, the exception being the " Rob Everyone Blind " one.
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Re: Britains Nuclear Energy.

In the 70's a band called Genesis released an album titled -

'Selling England By The Pound'

How true that has become
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In the 70's a band called Genesis released an album titled -

'Selling England By The Pound'

How true that has become
Maybe that's what he's up to in Saudi. He's ****ed up the country, sold all our gold on the cheap and now he's selling us all out
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Oh no......not the Daily Mail............................
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Oh no......not the Daily Mail............................
Yeah, sorry about that but the Sport had sold out...............

'Tis true though, it's reported elsewhere.
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Gordon Brown will do anything other than drop the level of tax levied on Fuel.
Thats just about the size of it IMO.

As for Nuclear energy, I am not sure it a good long term solution. There will be a shortage of uranium soon for a start.

We should build a few big dams like the ones in the US and attach generators to them, and build wind farms If there is anything we are not short of in the UK it is wind and water.

I know this wouldn't be enough to support all of our power needs but I would certainly help a lot. I also hear that the coal mines may be re-opened....
I suppose all of these electric powered cars that we will soon be getting would have to get their electric from somewhere.

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Gordon Brown will do anything other than drop the level of tax levied on Fuel.
Thats just about the size of it IMO.

As for Nuclear energy, I am not sure it a good long term solution. There will be a shortage of uranium soon for a start.

We should build a few big dams like the ones in the US and attach generators to them, and build wind farms If there is anything we are not short of in the UK it is wind and water.

I know this wouldn't be enough to support all of our power needs but I would certainly help a lot. I also hear that the coal mines may be re-opened....
I suppose all of these electric powered cars that we will soon be getting would have to get their electric from somewhere.
Dunno Symon, I think the only real answer is Nuclear power, all the other so called solutions don't seem to even scratch the surface. There is plenty of coal left under our green and pleasant land but it will become increasingly difficult and expensive to extract it. There is also the pollution problem that goes with extraction and use of it........ not that I'm an harbinger of doom.

Fully agree with your comments in this and other recent Threads about the wallies who think that electric just seeps out of their sockets in the house, very green, huge pollution to manufacture, run and dispose of these horrid hybrids but hey, it sounds good in the wine bar conversations. What's in between their ears, a run down AAA battery ?
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We could do worse, we always have.
 
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We could do worse, we always have.
We seem to be good at this ! Do you think a Brit will win Wimbledon ?

I'm off !
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There will be a shortage of uranium soon for a start.
A bit like there is a shortage of oil and gas already.....there's plenty of coal, shame maggie closed the pits.
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I just think that until we master the art of controlling nuclear fusion the long term future for nuclear is not very bright.
Scientists are working hard at it, so there should be a breakthrough in the next few years.
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I have just watched a recorded programme on Sky + about the longest underwater gas pipe line from Norway to here which will supply us with gas for the next 40 years. At a cost...no doubt
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I have just watched a recorded programme on Sky + about the longest underwater gas pipe line from Norway to here which will supply us with gas for the next 40 years. At a cost...no doubt
It must be good to know that you are paying Sky for an up to date service


September 2006

BBC NEWS | Business | New pipeline may stem gas fears

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I didn't say that it was a brand new programme and was aware that the pipeline was going to operational a couple of years ago.

However supplying the UK's gas needs for the next 40 years suggests that the supply will not dry up imminently.

I can send you a copy on Betamax if you want to watch it.
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The actual "story" is that Brown is over in Saudi with the prime purpose to try and end the oil price escalations (not entirely sure how but I've heard he's a good negotator). Another purpose is to urge the Saudis to invest their wealth in our country in developing both wind and nuclear power plants.

Can't actually see what's wrong with that


But hey, I didn't have the pleasure of reading the Mail's "version".
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Oh no......not the Daily Mail............................

what he said


dunno why their headline shouldn't automatically be 'oh no we're all going to die!' 365 days a year cos that's what they're usually telling us
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The actual "story" is that Brown is over in Saudi with the prime purpose to try and end the oil price escalations (not entirely sure how but I've heard he's a good negotator).
Gordon Brown is actually good at something?
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The actual "story" is that Brown is over in Saudi with the prime purpose to try and end the oil price escalations (not entirely sure how but I've heard he's a good negotator). Another purpose is to urge the Saudis to invest their wealth in our country in developing both wind and nuclear power plants.

Can't actually see what's wrong with that
Neither can I, but why miss the oportunity to have another swipe at Brown? (I'm not a fan, by the way, but it's just cheap politics).
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Neither can I, but why miss the oportunity to have another swipe at Brown? (I'm not a fan, by the way, but it's just cheap politics).

Although I'm not averse to having a go at Brown that wasn't the point I was trying to make.

The worry to me is that all our energy supplies could be owned by foreign investors/companies - does that not leave the UK open to fuel blackmail ?
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I just think that until we master the art of controlling nuclear fusion the long term future for nuclear is not very bright.
Scientists are working hard at it, so there should be a breakthrough in the next few years.
That'gs what they've been saying for the last 20
years. We won't see commercial fusion generation
within 50 years is my bet.


And again although the UK was a world class leader
in research with JET et al Culham.....

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | France gets nuclear fusion plant
 
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Most of the AGR's will run till 2019 approx so if they start to build now they shud be ok.
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Most of the stuff they do at Culham now is for the ITER project - very interesting stuff

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