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Canít give them away.....

.....Mrs. Verbout ordered a makeover of the downstairs.

I have decorated the living room and dining room and put down a wooden floor and new radiators in both rooms.

Of course in Mrs. Verbouts world this makeover requires new settees, that have just been delivered. At the same time the local Prince of Wales Hospice collection service arrived to remove two old (7 years) three seater settees.

The settee are natural hide which has flaws, has discolouration and no chemical protection. They photographed the settees and asked the opinion of the Hospice shop manager. She didnít want them because of the ďdiscolouration.

They were free. I would expect someone who shops at a second hand furniture shop, whoís proceeds go to cancer care, would be be grateful for a couple of very cheap settees.

Hey ho. Ungrateful bastids.

Iím sure some unscrupulous student landlord will give me a few quid for them.

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Had exactly this issue, just a fortnight back, we replaced our 38 year old sofa and 2 armchairs (must be some kind of record) with a pair of leather chesterfields.

The old sofa was in great nick, having been recovered and new foam for the cushions back in 2002 at a horrific cost, probably twice the cost of replacement. just not the most stylish or desirable.

The kicker, whilst the materials used were up to code and flame retardant, there was no labels to say as such, which meant charity shops wouldn't touch them - having them disposed of was looking to be about £90 or somesuch.

I bunged them up on gumtree with an asking price of £50 - only once I dropped it to free did I get any interest!
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I was asked about the fire labels when I called the shop.

I believe charity shops are exempt from selling furniture that does not comply with the fire code, due to them not being a commercial concern, but I believe it’s best practice for them to abide by the law.

I’ll stand being corrected on that.

Forgot about Gumtree, cheers.
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Also it's sod's law the minute they are gone someone will need some
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Yep...very disappointing....didn't know that free pick up services did an inspection on them.

Gumtree the way...bung 'em on the "free section"..collection only of course...cos you will get some dimwits who want your freebies delivered to them !!
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I was asked about the fire labels when I called the shop.

I believe charity shops are exempt from selling furniture that does not comply with the fire code, due to them not being a commercial concern, but I believe itís best practice for them to abide by the law.

Iíll stand being corrected on that.

Forgot about Gumtree, cheers.
Strangely, my old man is a former chair for Emmaus Hampshire, a homeless charity who specialise in furniture, he said they wouldn't touch them, no mention of being exempt as they're a charity - sod's law says you're right and someone could have benefitted from them and helped a worthy cause!

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Yep...very disappointing....didn't know that free pick up services did an inspection on them.

Gumtree the way...bung 'em on the "free section"..collection only of course...cos you will get some dimwits who want your freebies delivered to them !!
Yeah, that's happened before with a free cement mixer "Can you deliver... blah blah... 20 miles away"
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I was asked about the fire labels when I called the shop.

I believe charity shops are exempt from selling furniture that does not comply with the fire code, due to them not being a commercial concern, but I believe it’s best practice for them to abide by the law.

I’ll stand being corrected on that.

Forgot about Gumtree, cheers.
Worth a mention to Emmaus Leeds maybe? I'm taking a stab as to your closest one...

The charity takes in homeless people who they give shelter, and train them to restore furniture which is then sold off to pay for their accommodation costs (at least I know Hampshire does), so any issues with perceived discolouration might not put them off!

And they'll most likely collect.
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Strangely, my old man is a former chair for Emmaus Hampshire, a homeless charity who specialise in furniture, he said they wouldn't touch them, no mention of being exempt as they're a charity...
I think the law says you have to have a fire label to sell second hand furniture by way of business (as opposed to privately), which is what the charities are doing so they have to comply.
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I think the law says you have to have a fire label to sell second hand furniture by way of business (as opposed to privately), which is what the charities are doing so they have to comply.
But I believe charityís are treat differently, Iíll look up the legislation, I was given a link to the exemption, Iíll try and post it.
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I might be quite literally on the wrong page but:

"The Regulations apply to all persons in the business supply chain from the supply of materials for use in
furniture through to the supply of the finished article as well as re-upholstery and re-covering. They affect:

Persons who supply furniture, furnishings or re upholstery services including:
Manufacturers
Retailers
Importers
Persons who supply filling materials and fabrics to the furniture industry or direct to consumers
Persons who supply re-upholstery and re-covering services
Persons who supply second-hand furniture in the course of business or trade (e.g. auctioneers,
charities)."


https://www.firesafe.org.uk/furnitur...1989-and-1993/
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....which does on to say:

Charities:

In the Department's view, the simple distribution of second-hand furniture by a charity in pursuance of its charitable objectives to needy persons, either free of charge or at a nominal amount only, would be unlikely to constitute a supply in the course of business. On the other hand, shops selling furniture to raise funds for charitable purposes would constitute a business activity and the Regulations will apply to the furniture sold in this case. Individual charities should take legal advice on the circumstances surrounding all their particular operations.


I would imagine the charity would err on the side of caution.
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Well yes, charity shops fit into the second category, hence not accepting stuff without the label.
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