Rubbish roads - Alfa Romeo Forum
You are currently unregistered, register for more features.    
Rant Room Clean ranting only - No Swearing!

 9Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
(Post Link) post #1 of 37 Old 04-02-18 Thread Starter
Status: zzzzzzzz
AO Platinum Member
 
symon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Oxfordshire
Posts: 37,014
Rubbish roads

Not sure how bad the roads are in the rsst of the Uk but the ones here in Oxfordshire are dire.
I don't think I have ever seen them in such bad condition. Every year a new lever of disrepair is reached.

To top it all, it seems that the council here are fixated with resurfacing the better ones whilst leaving the worst ones as they are.

I keep thinking to myself, that I would like to buy a newer or better car, but why should I spend thousands of punds on a nice car only to have it wrecked by shoddy roads?

IMO the quality of roads is a large part of the reason for the drop in new cars sales, even though other factors such as Brexit and the Dieselgate scandal are often mentioned.

So my next car after the BMW is going to be another old banger for a few hundred quid. That way it doesn't matter as much if it gets damaged. You cannot even enjoy driving much these days due to slow speed limits, bad roads and traffic congestion.

Giulietta 2.0JTDm (170), BMW 335i Cabrio
symon is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Status: Comfortably numb
AO Silver Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: United Kingdom
County: Dorset
Posts: 3,891

Member car:

147 1.6 Sport

Try reporting them on Fix My Street. I've had a number of successes using it. Once the councils are aware they are obliged to take remedial action. I usually include a reference to the safety of cyclists/motor cyclists. One particularly nasty hole was filled with in two days of my report.

https://www.fixmystreet.com/
Poolegan is offline  
Status: 6 YEARS LYMPHOMA FREE!! :)
AO Silver Member
 
ronan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Belfast
County: Down
Posts: 4,916

Member car:

156 1.8 Turismo

All money is being channelled to enable Brexit ffs
ronan is offline  
(Post Link) post #4 of 37 Old 04-02-18 Thread Starter
Status: zzzzzzzz
AO Platinum Member
 
symon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Oxfordshire
Posts: 37,014
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poolegan View Post
Try reporting them on Fix My Street. I've had a number of successes using it. Once the councils are aware they are obliged to take remedial action. I usually include a reference to the safety of cyclists/motor cyclists. One particularly nasty hole was filled with in two days of my report.

https://www.fixmystreet.com/
I think i would be there all day, if I decided to report all of the holes I know of.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ronan View Post
All money is being channelled to enable Brexit ffs
Possibly at the moment, but the roads have been neglected for some time under the last two governments and the current state is just a cumulation of years of neglect.
symon is offline  
Status: Dreaming
AO Silver Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Orpington, Kent
Posts: 2,032

Member car:

Giulietta 150MA

Quote:
Originally Posted by symon View Post
I think i would be there all day, if I decided to report all of the holes I know of.
A day in the life?
chrishendrix likes this.
Sterzo is offline  
Status: Gormless [email protected]*
AO Gold Member
 
Paddy OPlastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 8,443

Member car:

Alfa GT JTD 2004

You in the UK don't know you're born.
Paddy OPlastic is offline  
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
Oldie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: United Kingdom
County: Argyll and Bute
Posts: 1,274
Quote:
Originally Posted by symon View Post
Not sure how bad the roads are in the rsst of the Uk but the ones here in Oxfordshire are dire.
I don't think I have ever seen them in such bad condition. Every year a new lever of disrepair is reached.

To top it all, it seems that the council here are fixated with resurfacing the better ones whilst leaving the worst ones as they are.

I keep thinking to myself, that I would like to buy a newer or better car, but why should I spend thousands of punds on a nice car only to have it wrecked by shoddy roads?

IMO the quality of roads is a large part of the reason for the drop in new cars sales, even though other factors such as Brexit and the Dieselgate scandal are often mentioned.

So my next car after the BMW is going to be another old banger for a few hundred quid. That way it doesn't matter as much if it gets damaged. You cannot even enjoy driving much these days due to slow speed limits, bad roads and traffic congestion.
+1

Good to hear that here in Argyll, we are not alone in having rapidly disintegrating roads. Down to 15mph on many main (A) roads in many places. I don't know whether the contractors who did the resurfacing last time used a particularly cheap mix of tarmac and gravel but the surface seems to be reverting back to pure gravel.

I wonder where all the contractors are because there are almost none to be seen and even the very worst parts have not even been patched up. (Main roads are the responsibility of the Highways Agency, only urban roads are the Council's.)

Brera 3.2 SV Q4
Oldie is offline  
(Post Link) post #8 of 37 Old 04-02-18 Thread Starter
Status: zzzzzzzz
AO Platinum Member
 
symon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Oxfordshire
Posts: 37,014
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy OPlastic View Post
You in the UK don't know you're born.
I have been to Ireland, and the roads there are no worse, or at least the ones around Bantry and Durrus weren't.
symon is offline  
Status: T-5 Days to Unicorn Paradise
AO Platinum Member
 
TheGrimJeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: France
County: Riviera
Posts: 38,319
Once out of the EU all these problems will get fixed. Apparently.


In the mean time, get an Evoque. The Si4 is quite tasty. Especially with adaptive dampers. SUV FTW!
TheGrimJeeper is offline  
Status: -
AO Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: United Kingdom
County: North Yorkshire
Posts: 398

Member car:

alfa gt

It was leaked about 15 years ago that many local authorities find it cheaper to pay compensation for damaged cars than repair roads. I'm not quite sure why they don't insist developers who create huge housing estates don't contribute towards upkeep of the road networks? The boss of persimmon homes was just given a 110 million pound BONUS last year such is the level of the profits. The roads here in North Yorkshire are atrocious.

Last edited by chrisi7146; 04-02-18 at 17:41.
chrisi7146 is offline  
Status: Gormless [email protected]*
AO Gold Member
 
Paddy OPlastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 8,443

Member car:

Alfa GT JTD 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by symon View Post
I have been to Ireland, and the roads there are no worse, or at least the ones around Bantry and Durrus weren't.
The road between Bantry and Durrus isn't bad - there are a few influential people with property on the Kilmore Peninsula. If you turn onto the Sheep's Head Peninsula instead then hold on to your fillings.

I know UK roads and I know Irish roads. You don't know you're born.
Paddy OPlastic is offline  
Status: T-5 Days to Unicorn Paradise
AO Platinum Member
 
TheGrimJeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: France
County: Riviera
Posts: 38,319
Are the Irish roads like Costa Rica ... ?
TheGrimJeeper is offline  
Status: Gormless [email protected]*
AO Gold Member
 
Paddy OPlastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 8,443

Member car:

Alfa GT JTD 2004

Currently having an election?
Paddy OPlastic is offline  
Status: T-5 Days to Unicorn Paradise
AO Platinum Member
 
TheGrimJeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: France
County: Riviera
Posts: 38,319
I see Nigel was over there last week. Did he get a go on the roads? Apparently iExit is heading your way.
In which case the roads will soon be much better.
TheGrimJeeper is offline  
(Post Link) post #15 of 37 Old 04-02-18 Thread Starter
Status: zzzzzzzz
AO Platinum Member
 
symon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Oxfordshire
Posts: 37,014
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy OPlastic View Post
The road between Bantry and Durrus isn't bad - there are a few influential people with property on the Kilmore Peninsula. If you turn onto the Sheep's Head Peninsula instead then hold on to your fillings.

I know UK roads and I know Irish roads. You don't know you're born.
Yes went to the Sheeps head peninsula, as well as Mizen Head.

I still think UK roads are worse.

I didn't damage any wheels on my trip to ireland, which is ore than can be said of the roads around here.
symon is offline  
Status: Gormless [email protected]*
AO Gold Member
 
Paddy OPlastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 8,443

Member car:

Alfa GT JTD 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimJeeper View Post
I see Nigel was over there last week. Did he get a go on the roads? Apparently iExit is heading your way.
In which case the roads will soon be much better.
Maybe we can use his body as road foundation.
Paddy OPlastic is offline  
Status: Gormless [email protected]*
AO Gold Member
 
Paddy OPlastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 8,443

Member car:

Alfa GT JTD 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by symon View Post
Yes went to the Sheeps head peninsula, as well as Mizen Head.

I still think UK roads are worse.

I didn't damage any wheels on my trip to ireland, which is ore than can be said of the roads around here.
Maybe we think worse of the roads we are obliged to drive every day. Let's agree to disagree and and then agree that the state of both is appalling.
symon likes this.
Paddy OPlastic is offline  
(Post Link) post #18 of 37 Old 04-02-18 Thread Starter
Status: zzzzzzzz
AO Platinum Member
 
symon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Oxfordshire
Posts: 37,014
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy OPlastic View Post
Maybe we think worse of the roads we are obliged to drive every day. Let's agree to disagree and and then agree that the state of both is appalling.
Indeed, government is quick to take motorists money but no so quick to spend it on the roads.
symon is offline  
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
Harvo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: United Kingdom
County: Devon
Posts: 4,002

Member car:

Laguna, Elgrand

Irish roads are far worse. Had a holiday in Cork several years ago and they were sheite then (2009) God knows how bad they are now. Thank fook I was in a rental!

We're catching up though.

Last edited by Harvo; 05-02-18 at 11:31.
Harvo is offline  
Status: Comfortably numb
AO Silver Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: United Kingdom
County: Dorset
Posts: 3,891

Member car:

147 1.6 Sport

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy OPlastic View Post
You in the UK don't know you're born.
I was told the roads in Ireland were all part of the traffic calming
Poolegan is offline  
Status: -
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
County: -
Posts: 46
Manchester roads are poor, you dont need sleeping policemen anymore but just down the road in Cheshire they seem to be better, I wonder why !
PStwenty16 is offline  
Status: Gormless [email protected]*
AO Gold Member
 
Paddy OPlastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 8,443

Member car:

Alfa GT JTD 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by Poolegan View Post
I was told the roads in Ireland were all part of the traffic calming
Doesn't calm me down.
Paddy OPlastic is offline  
Status: T-5 Days to Unicorn Paradise
AO Platinum Member
 
TheGrimJeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: France
County: Riviera
Posts: 38,319
Calm down, dear.
TheGrimJeeper is offline  
Status: Gormless [email protected]*
AO Gold Member
 
Paddy OPlastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 8,443

Member car:

Alfa GT JTD 2004

DON'T
TELL
ME
TO
CALM
DOWN






Paddy OPlastic is offline  
Status: T-5 Days to Unicorn Paradise
AO Platinum Member
 
TheGrimJeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: France
County: Riviera
Posts: 38,319
If i lived over there, I'd be driving a big boy's car...
TheGrimJeeper is offline  
Reply

Go Back   Alfa Romeo Forum > Misc Lounges > Community Discussions > Rant Room

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome