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Why donít we have separate forums for the diesel owners and one for the very annoying head in the sand environmental petrol owners who believe they cause no environmental damage?
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Jeez relax enjoy your car, let others enjoy theirs, who actually cares what type of fuel you use. We all have one thing in common here.. Alfa Romeo
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I have just changed from a 2.0 diesel to a 3.0 petrol.

My Concience is clear.
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Jeez relax enjoy your car, let others enjoy theirs, who actually cares what type of fuel you use. We all have one thing in common here.. Alfa Romeo
If only Dan!!
We need to start hi jacking their threads with bo..llx about their Ďbetter than thouí mentality, itís the only thing for me that spoils this site.....Just utter b,,Ollx
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I have just changed from a 2.0 diesel to a 3.0 petrol.

My Concience is clear.
Friggin funny.....haha!
Enjoy spending the extra cash keeping it on the road......
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Why donít we have separate forums for the diesel owners and one for the very annoying head in the sand environmental petrol owners who believe they cause no environmental damage?
Most of the threads are already about DERVs - that's where the majority of the problems are.
Perhaps having a big black mark at the side of the diseasel threads will help them to stand-out more, and so the petrolheads amongst us can more easily avoid them.
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A black mark would be apt. When I bought my wife's new Kuga I considered the petrol ,but it's not recommended , so that's a euro-whatever diesel. We had an older generation diesel in the past in a Multipla, not unlike the 1.9 jtd in the 159s. Petrol is no way perfect but the main gain of diesel is for the middle easterners who found a use for the leftover bit of the crude oil.
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New forum suggestion?

There's a section of the forum that covers all. In your case it's the the Rant Room


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Agreed.
There seems to have been a deluge of threads that aren't relevant to the specific models in recent months.
Perhaps the mods have given up trying to control it all.

Edit: Now shifted to its rightful place.
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Jeez relax enjoy your car, let others enjoy theirs, who actually cares what type of fuel you use. We all have one thing in common here.. Alfa Romeo
I have two Alfa Romeo's and one "Oilfa Romeo". The "Oilfa" does more to the gallon than the two Alfa's put together.
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All DERV posters could just add the smoking icon to their posts.

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Ah the good old days, when all the non-technical threads were in GAD, WOT or RANT.
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This reminds me of the social experiment where school children were split into blue eyes and brown eyes in order to reinforcing prejudice after the MLK assassination.
I believe it came in for some criticism.

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I'm in both camps. I just used the Kuga to transport the boy to cyclocross race. It's a modern diesel but I do wonder if I was right to pay off the PCP after two years. So far it hasn't depreciated too much since then....
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I'm in both camps. I just used the Kuga to transport the boy to cyclocross race. It's a modern diesel but I do wonder if I was right to pay off the PCP after two years. So far it hasn't depreciated too much since then....
Blue eyes or brown eyes, no liberalism here please.
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Friggin funny.....haha!
Enjoy spending the extra cash keeping it on the road......
About £13 per week extra in fuel on a 250 mile week.

Tax is a bit more but insurance is cheaper.

No turbo, EGR or DPF to cause issues, engine much more refined and sounds 1000,000 times better than a clattery 4 cylinder Diesel.

Oh and about 60bhp extra, and no turbo lag.


I think it is fair to say I won't be going back to Diesel anytime soon, at least not in a 4 cylinder form.
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My objection to diesels is not emissions based. We're all pumping **** out of our exhausts (and if you drive a milkfloat it's just being released somewhere else). I don't like the sound, the power delivery or the reliability issues that emerge as they get older. If other people don't mine that stuff, that's up to them.

Regardless of your choice of fuel, please don't claim that your brand new car is somehow saving the planet because that's just nonsense.
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Friggin funny.....haha!
Enjoy spending the extra cash keeping it on the road......
It's not like he's going to lose much on depreciation at the lifestage of the car. That could be more expensive than doubling his fuel costs.
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It's not like he's going to lose much on depreciation at the lifestage of the car. That could be more expensive than doubling his fuel costs.
That's the choice we make. For what 14yo 3.0 S-type costs to run, I could run something much newer and more economical and spend money on depreciation instead of petrol. I just don't want to at this point. The trade off is that I leave it at home all week and get the train to work. I don't think it has any environmental impact when its on my drive.
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It's not like he's going to lose much on depreciation at the lifestage of the car. That could be more expensive than doubling his fuel costs.
If I drive it for two years without spending too much and take it to the scrap yard I will have lost about £2000

I worked out that 1 years depreciation on the Diesel Giulietta was about the same.

So it is actually working out about £500 per year cheaper if you factor in fuel costs.
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Diesels simply have more issues.

Had two diseasals (if you exclude two leased Rover diesels from 124 years ago) of my own and oddly both were Alfas.
I am not much a fan of the 1.9. I can only go from experience I had with mine and I did not like it. Two main issues were..
a) The uncanny ability I had to remove, clean and reattach the EGR quickly. People that know me, know I'm slow at just about everything else.
b) The ****ing in a biscuit tin noise. I really, really hated it.

I also had a 2.4, 159 which was ace, OK at idle it was obvious I burned crude but when nailed those 5 cylinders growled with pleasure, however recently it became poorly and my inadequacy and enthusiasm to fix the suspension made me sell it to a friend. He's not my friend now after I did that, but he did come to gloat last week.
He's fixed it and it goes like stink (the DPF was clogged too it seemed when I had it) and is as tight as a shark's arse at 50 fathoms.
I could be tempted into a bigger than 4-pots diesel but after my silky smooth German V6 I doubt it very much.

However I'd rather have a tractor than most milk floats.

I'm not going anywhere, I'm just going.
Statements above are all my own opinion and not fact.
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I might be tempted by a big 6 cylinder derv but it would depend how the cost stacked up against the petrol equivalents. Certainly I see the price premiums which diesels usually fetch disappearing.
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When I see a diesel all I see are puffs of black smoke come out the exhaust,
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