I'm not completely sure that either comment is entirely fair TS.
I admit I don't have the inclination to research this answer properly tonight but I think our European friends tend to pay lower prices "on the road". It isn't always the manufacturers taking advantage.
I never said it was the manufacturer taking advantage. I know that taxes play a huge part in the price of any car in any place around the world.
Originally Posted by 73GTVJim
We have higher taxation and the poor exchange rate, now about EUR1.30:£ (which is down about 12% since last summer) tend to make our prices higher and there is generally a demand for higher specification which is often overlooked in these headline-grabbing articles.
It's not the headlines that I pay attention to. It's the posts right here on AO. I've been a member here for enough years that I've got a pretty good idea of comparative prices of cars (especially Alfas) across the nations which produce our members. Consistently it seems like the British AOers pay less (factoring in exchange rates) than the AOers in Denmark or Greece or the Netherlands do for similar cars. (I won't say identical because I know there are country-specific packages).
Originally Posted by 73GTVJim
I also think your "whining English" comment is unnecessarily inflammatory. It is entirely reasonable to question why there appears to be a differential, I feel.
Sure it's fine to question, but I didn't see any questioning at all in this thread. I saw the original poster put up some prices and two people offered direct comparisons -- one higher and one lower. So in other words, the British prices are in the middle and not at the extreme ends of the examples.
I also saw the original poster start with a presumption that the British prices were a yet another rip-off. That's stating a loaded (to say the least) premise, and from where I sit (in a country that pays considerably higher prices for cars) it sounds like moaning/complaining/whining/take your pick. If any of the posters had even put through a single logical argument as to why the higher prices aren't justified, I'd have been fascinated to read it. That would have given me a perspective I haven't been exposed to before. You've come the closest, Jim (as you usually do), when you mentioned the falling exchange rate against the Euro, but seeing as we're dealing with Japanese and American cars, you're slightly off the mark (or I'm just not following your argument, which could be the case). The other factor that I should have mentioned in my original post was that the US dollar and the Canadian dollar about par these days. Some days ours is point or two higher, some days it's a point or two lower, so when you factor that exchange rate into the car prices, the Mustangs become an even better deal in the UK.
So if you think I'm being inflamatory for saying that there is whining, and I think there is a lot of crying about nothing, how about this suggestion to take the thread forward in a manner that would better facilitate further discussion: let's play automotive executive and ask people to post what they think would be a far price for British AOers to pay for the Mustang and/or the Nissan? And I mean fair, not pie-in-the-sky ridiculous. Plus tell us how and why that price was decided.
If you want, I'll start. Given the type of car (small RWD sports coupe with an eight cylinder engine) and the type of market (niche) and the origin of the vehicle (US, making it an import into the UK) I think the price is perfectly reasonable, especially when it's less than a 147 (the UK Alfa website is advertising a 147 starting at 13,950 pounds OTR), and a 147 is pulled from the wrong end rather than pushed from the right one and has half as many cylinders.