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Slicing up that fat cadaver on the Jamie Oliver programme last night, showing just what a lifetime of pie addiction leads to. Bringing anatomy to the masses, just like the public demonstrations in the old days. Marvellous stuff.
 
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Modern day Body Snatcher: Sectioned pieces showing constipation, and the effect on surrounding organs I found really fascinating.: I was eating my eggs, mushrooms, celeriac,etc. in a white sauce, whilst oggling the box.: Ghoulish, Huh?
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He's a little creepy.

Didn't see the programme, was he wearing his hat again? I wonder if he wears that same hat out and about after an autopsy, or if it's his special autopsy hat.
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Must admit, having been to Vogelsang, way back, noted for you know what? Gets my head buzzing a little, when I see that chap?
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I'm a bit squeamish but forced myself to watch it. Gross but instructive and more than a little worrying.

I thought the whole programme was very well executed and an eye-opening slant on the food quality issues we have.
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I'm a compo canned food man, mesel': Don't suppose I'll be changing my eating, or any other habits now. Can't be bothered,and at the present time most things seem to be reasonably ok. Few little problems with the teeth, heart valve, respiratory functions, etc; just the clock ticking away, to three score years and ten, well a couple or so to go, and then we'll just wait and see?.: Eat more happiness, eject that gloom!
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Those lungs are really smooze.
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I thought the whole programme was very well executed and an eye-opening slant on the food quality issues we have.
So did I. Good, clear messages on hidden sugar and salt, that there's no need to panic, and that even a 10% weight loss is well worth having. And they're right, a diagnosis of diabetes will change your life, and not in a nice way.

The way that old guy's lungs had been squeezed out of play was astonishing. People tend to assume that a cardiovascular death is always a quick, clean, fall-over-and-it's-over kind of affair. That guy must have died by inches after years of terrible distress.


A couple of quibbles -

1. The stuff on BMI was very confusing and badly handled (and confusing it with cardiorespiratory fitness was a real mistake). And as for body fat content - if you need to go to a gym to have something measured forget it, people won't do that. They should have used waist measurement more, it's a better indicator than BMI.

2. I know it was a cookery programme , but there was no mention at all of the importance of physical activity for cardiovascular health. Easy enough to slip in "and walking for 30 minutes/day on most days will make a real difference").

3. What is it with nutritionists and antioxidants? The statement that "they stop our artieries furring up" is completely unsupported speculation. If it was that simple we could go down to Boots and stock up on the pills. Sadly, there is no good evidence that taking antioxidant vitamin pills is good for you, and quite good evidence that it is harmful.

4. There was a brief clip of a waist measurement being taken - completely wrongly. Git to do it right (it isn't hard) or it doesn't mean much.

Overall, though, a very good effort IMHO.
 
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Stay at home, in a three storey town house, three flights, three landings, and an exercise bench, for a bit of extra. Eat, drink, sleep, and some, in moderation, but stay Happy!
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I thought it was brilliant. I don't eat much crap though. I've been very good. The gf is a veggie too so I don't eat that much meat.

Excellent week of programs.. been watching since it started last week.
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Didn't watch last night, I get kind of squeemish at that sort of thing. But these series of programmes do make you think and I have made a couple of minor changes to my own regime. We had already been eating free range eggs for some time ( i get them cheaper than battery from a wee house down the road) so that was easy. now decided to go free range chicken and cut down total meat consumption.

Not huge changes, but ones that will make a difference. Might add a couple of quid a week to the shopping bill, but so what?
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I bet he has a BMW. If you could see behind their 'privacy glass' they're probably all like that.
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1. The stuff on BMI was very confusing and badly handled (and confusing it with cardiorespiratory fitness was a real mistake). And as for body fat content - if you need to go to a gym to have something measured forget it, people won't do that. They should have used waist measurement more, it's a better indicator than BMI.
BMI really annoys me anyway. It should be abandoned as it makes absolutely no allowance for muscle.
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Yup, interesting programme although the BMI thing is a waist of space (geddit?). The autopsy was much less boak-making than I expectedand the squeeze on the lung and heart cavity was astonishing.

Jamie's a pain though.


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BMI really annoys me anyway. It should be abandoned as it makes absolutely no allowance for muscle.
No, it has its uses, even if it is something of a a blunt instrument. It's widely used and understood. If your BMI is 27 and you're well muscled, that's one thing, but if it's 32 and you're not Geoff Capes, then you're a lardarse.

Waist measurement's better though. Diabetes UK have caught on to this (Measure Up - are you at risk of diabetes? - Diabetes UK) and you see their posters around quite often now.

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And why is this in the rant lounge?
Dunno. Force of habit I guess. And I did expect more opposition. If any of the Thought Police want to move it, go for it.

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If any of the Thought Police want to move it, go for it.
Entirely tongue-in-cheek comment by me - honest
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I missed that programme but have watched many other autopsy's by Gunther and find them fascinating and very informative. I do think that he gets too much of a thrill from doing this though!
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The one where he laid out some stiff's entire digestive system in a straight line was fantastic stuff.

I went to see his plastinates exhibition in London a few years back. marvesllous stuff, anatomy meets art.

I'd say it's his passion that makes the difference.
 
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Well guys, viewing on screen is pretty mild comparing it with the real thing in a mortuary, or embalming room. Three dimensional in the flesh, and that added component, aroma, and the eye stinging sensation of formaldehyde, can be something else!:
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They should bring back the old system in hospitals - they're not called operating "theatres" for no reason.
 
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