....Just posted a long reply which may have timed-out or came up as invalid thread or something or other. Anyway here's a shortened version as I'm not going there twice.
We all know Bush is no saint, even before he was elected we were told he would take the US and possibly their allies to war, but he is a christian who prays to God everyday or so he says, how do you work that one out. ?
I firmly believe that you can live in a civilised country that carries out the death penalty, the country will be a lot more wealthy for it.
I'm fully aware that the death penalty is no deterant, miscarriages of justice either genuine or through corruption etc etc etc have resulted in much regretable innocent deaths, but I still know that there are some criminals that are not mad, they have admitted their crimes, and they have said they will re-offend on their release, for these few they must pay the ultimate price.
Wrinx, you have me painted as some large black hooded medieval executioner with the biggest chopper out there (trying to keep it clean
) but you have me wrong. What we must realise is that no one can even begin to understand what those two girls went through that night, possibly the police officers who visited the scene or recovered her body may get close and my guess is they would be in favour of returning the death penalty because of this. Would you be of the same opinion if that girl was your daughter heaven forbid this. ?
You say I would be next in line for killing these people but you misunderstand me, I am talking legalised execution where the Govt. appoints an executioner to carry out the killing legally, Albert Pierrepoint, our last executioner hung god knows how many murderers and he died in the 90's I believe, when he started he firmly believed in hanging but before he retired he was against it.
What I have learned from this thread is that there are so many other avenues to address before this could ever be introduced and this is why I'm of the opinion it will never be brought back.
The British public (IIRC 75-80%) would vote this back like a shot but it is the politicians who would never allow us this vote as they know it would be reintroduced and for any government not just the current one it would be a minefield.
Finally I say, Hang them, shoot them, electrocute them, inject them, gas them or whatever when they have addmitted it, DNA and forensics point to irrefutable evidence against them, they say they will do the same again on release, and if the families of the victims want to choose which way they go let them choose.
I dont mind my taxes going to any worthwhile causes but it annoys me when my money is keeping lowlife such as these and others in luxury some might say, read an article last week on Belmarsh Prison, apparently its a hellish existance for the prison officers that work there but a life of luxury if your'e an inmate, and if your'e a "celebrity inmate" there's no limits .
Six men get 27 yrs. each but in real terms they'll probably never get out, all in early 20's. Cost of keep I'd say a conservative 75k a year each. Lets say they live to be 75, do the maths and you will arrive at a very very big number with lots of 0's on the end of it.
I wish we could just do the sensible thing. !!!!!!. I bet if you asked any of the six and gave them the figures they'd say "ok then lets get it over with", providing they had a modicum of inteligence that is.