Originally Posted by Alfaguy
I know its a bit confusing but what I meant the poll to be was like a car race where being No 1 is best
I'm still firmly on 10
I'm not being black and white - I fully accept the employment law changes vis unions were all to the good. I'm an HR Director and negotiate with the print unions on a daily basis, and have done the same in the car and areopspace industries, so I benefit directly from some of her reforms.
I just don't accept that the end justified the means. She quite deliberately took the hardest possible line to drive though what she wanted in the full knowledge that she would decimate communities and destroy livelihoods, and that was OK with her. Not OK for those on the receiving end, the 3 million on the dole.
And let's not pretend people in those industries were stupid or didn't see the need to change - once the incentive was there to do it (cheap Polish coal, etc) they needed support and a bit of time to change, and that was what she denied them. Serious investment in retraining and proper incentives for enterprise and inward investment in those areas could have allowed the same structural changes with far less human and social cost. Yes the North East and Midlands may well be thriving now, but let's face it, it's taken 20 years.
My second point is that your political point of view depended on your geographical point of view - I was shocked when I moved to the South East of England in 1993 to find that people thought the eighties had been a boom time - not in Scotland it wasn't. Yes she did win elections, and did so again by blatantly writing off those area where Tory vote was hopeless in favour of the SE heartland.
As far as I am concerned the PM has responsibility for the stewardship of the whole country and everyone in it. She deliberately manipulated government policies to benefit some at the extreme expense of others to suit her own electoral ambitions, which makes her a failure in my eyes.
I could dribble on for ages, but I've held these vews for a quarter of a century now, as have those who think she was wonderful,and I don't think therefore that any of us will be influenced by what anyone else says. So I'll shut up now before it starts getting prickly.