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View Poll Results: Which is the worst icon?
Mini 3 7.32%
2CV 4 9.76%
Mustang 0 0%
Beetle 6 14.63%
Willys Jeep 1 2.44%
DeLorean DMC-12 (does it even need a designation?) 6 14.63%
Ford Edsel 1 2.44%
Reliant Regal (grainy Del Boy re-run shed) 3 7.32%
Prius 16 39.02%
Other - tell us your choice 1 2.44%
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Boxing Iconic Cars that were actually a bit rubbish v2

Let's try again....


Read the other one I cocked up for the preamble. Or just vote or disagree...you know how it works by now.
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I almost voted Edsel because they were monumentally rubbish. Then I almost voted De Lorean. Then I remembered the hypocrisy of the Prius, which is not remotely environmentally friendly..........which is it's only reason for being. And it's crap.
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I had similar arguments with myself, made worse by compiling the list, although I allowed myself a wry smile for including the Prius. I think I hate the lame three wheeler more. I really, really hate the number of wrecked Regals standing on corners with lash up yellow and cow dung resprays faintly replicating Only Fools & Horses but advertising some local tat emporium..... more pertinently, I had the misfortune to drive a friend's when about 18 and I swear it was the most frightened I have ever been driving a "car" at any speed. I doubt I even reached 30 in it!


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Mini - No. It has its issues but it was a blueprint for small cars of the future
2CV - No. It wasn't crap at what it was designed for.
Mustang - Not a chance. It was the starting point of the concept of cars for family man that weren't cold porridge.
Beetle - Somehow, crapness is part of its charm.
Willys Jeep - How is this crap?
DeLorean DMC-12 (does it even need a designation?) - What happened to 1-11? A contender.
Ford Edsel - Wasn't it just an Edsel? I quite like them anyway.
Reliant Regal (grainy Del Boy re-run shed) - It was crap. But cars have to be crap in order to drive them on a bike license. It's in the Geneva Convention.
Prius - I don't think it's iconic
Other - tell us your choice

I think the DeLorean takes it. Its combination of crapness and shady deals just pushes it over the top.
 
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I'm not sure whether I am sad that I could not vote for a V**xh*ll, or happy that you did not find one that was worthy of inclusion. My vote would have gone for the arstra.
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Other for me......and I nominate the infamous " Hillman Imp" which I remember my Brother in Law buying from new many Years ago, and it was a nightmare from day one, can't remember everything that went wrong with it, but I know it leaked like hell every time it rained, and it never got fixed, but I think he kept it for about 5 years, despite all of the problems it caused him........
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Other for me......and I nominate the infamous " Hillman Imp" which I remember my Brother in Law buying from new many Years ago, and it was a nightmare from day one, can't remember everything that went wrong with it, but I know it leaked like hell every time it rained, and it never got fixed, but I think he kept it for about 5 years, despite all of the problems it caused him........
I'd agree with you there, absolute as standard but then I took my brothers old imp and put a2.0l ford pinto engine in it and took it hill climbing , used to pop wheelies on level ground, added 2 bags of cement to front and it drove awesomely. But your right about the leaks, driving through puddles or rain and the footwell would slowly fill with water up to the sills.

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I'm not sure whether I am sad that I could not vote for a V**xh*ll, or happy that you did not find one that was worthy of inclusion. My vote would have gone for the arstra.
Asrra - icon - really?

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Willys Jeep - How is this crap?
It was an icon, "did a job" but wasn't really fantastic at that job perhaps compared to more effective alternatives in the off road world. Don't shoot the mesenger.

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Other for me......and I nominate the infamous " Hillman Imp"
I loved my Imps and rallied a couple but no way was it an icon, sorry.
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Asrra - icon - really?
I think you missed my point. No V**xh*ll car is an icon.
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Must be the 2CV as it was slow and had appaling body roll - I still like them though
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I think you missed my point. No V**xh*ll car is an icon.
Ah, I can be slow on the uptake sometimes.
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Heh the Prius is nice and popular!
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The thing is, is why I think they are rubbish? I normally go off press writings and looks if I have no experience of the cars. I have been a passenger in an old Mustang (a friend had a straight six one when we were young) and a Beetle and driven a Mini.


I have no experience of the others. I loath the Prius as it fails at what it's supposed to stand for IMO. I just never liked the 2CV or why it has followers at all. I'm going with the Beetle because although uber cool and pleasant from some angles to look at, the ride experience I had was dreadful.
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You want to try driving a Beetle then. How about oversteer at 20mph, crap ventilation and dangerously slow (maybe a good thing with the shocking handling mind).

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Never driven one at all. In fact since that day (1974) in my then teachers car I have never been in one again.
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Prius isn't iconic but it is cr4p
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Must be the 2CV as it was slow and had appaling body roll - I still like them though
Ex girlfirend of mine had one once and wondered why it stopped working when she filled the oil filler with antifreeze one day- not only reason she is ex!

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Prius isn't iconic but it is cr4p
I understand your point but it has been around over 10 years, has carved a niche that many have followed to a greater or lesser extent such that to Joe Public it is the definitive modern tree hugger's and luvvies' Eco-ride of choice. Therefore, rubbish marketing-over-reality con that it is, I'd contend it will be viewed as a seminal vehicle in the future and can be considered iconic in that sense.
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I agree with KB - The DeLorean takes first prize...

It was indeed crap in many ways; it was never a commercial success; plus DeLorean was instrumental in dragging Colin Chapman and Lotus into the mire via gross fraudulent activities etc... John DeLorean was a serial con-man, fraudster, embezzler etc; and it has subsequently been revealed that he had practiced forging the signatures of Colin Chapman, and Sir Kenneth Cork - an accountant and the official receiver in Britain.
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Min-gy for me.

Prius is pants but despite Jim's pitch I am not sold that it is a true icon.
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Voted Beetle after much agonising - all here are worthy contenders except perhaps the Mustang.

What I really wanted to vote for was the Morris Minor or Austin A30/35
 
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I went for the 2CV, but nearly voted for the beetle.

The Prius is a bit rubbish, but I see it as Ironic rather than Iconic.
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I think you missed my point. No V**xh*ll car is an icon.
This had a Vauxhall badge on it and it wasn't crap.....

Driven: Lotus Carlton - PistonHeads


According to one well respected motoring programme it is an icon too.

Hammond driving the icons: Lotus Carlton - BBC Top Gear
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This had a Vauxhall badge on it and it wasn't crap.....

Driven: Lotus Carlton - PistonHeads


According to one well respected motoring programme it is an icon too.

Hammond driving the icons: Lotus Carlton - BBC Top Gear
That is a Lotus Carlton. I refuse to recoginise that it was associated with the car manufacturer mentioned above
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