Last true Alfa Romeo - Alfa Romeo Forum
You are currently unregistered, register for more features.    
Poll Room You got it, just random polls in here

View Poll Results: What is the last true Alfa Romeo in your eyes?
75 (1985 - 1992) 3 30.00%
Spider (1966 - 1994) 1 10.00%
SZ / RZ (1989 - 1994) 6 60.00%
Voters: 10. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
(Post Link) post #1 of 28 Old 03-01-05 Thread Starter
Status: -
Club Member
Membro Premio
 
Club Member Number: 1561
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Netherlands
County: -
Posts: 12,865

Member car:

busso powered

Last true Alfa Romeo

Imho the last Alfa Romeo hasn't been built yet, but what is the last 'true' Alfa Romeo in your eyes?
selespeed is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
Jedrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: wrexham, north wales
Posts: 2,213

Member car:

alfa romeo 155

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

what about the 155?
Jedrick is offline  
Status: ready4vacations
AO Platinum Member
 
THROTTLEMAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Portugal
County: Porto
Posts: 31,304

Member car:

Alfa 159 QV

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

My vote goes, of course, to the SZ. An outstanding Alfa, rwd, v6... a dream.
THROTTLEMAN is offline  
Status: Wyrd is Life
AO Gold Member
 
Stori's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
County: -
Posts: 11,591
Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Although I think that the last true Alfa Romeo was the Alfa 75,(FIAT largely styled the SZ, I believe) I have to aknowlege that the best car ,manufactued with the Alfa Romeo badge attached is something for the Future.
When FIAT took over Alfa Romeo it was a "tired" company on its last legs. That cannot be said of Alfa Romeo today
Stori is offline  
Status: Retired
AO Gold Member
 
alfaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: United Kingdom
County: Surrey
Posts: 6,451

Member car:

6C 2500

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

I can't vote for any of them as anyone who believes all Alfas made since these 3 are not true Alfas are plain mad.
alfaholic is offline  
wrinx
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Well, I have four "real" Alfas sat on my drive...all built since the 1994 cut off above

wrinx
 
Status: Wyrd is Life
AO Gold Member
 
Stori's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
County: -
Posts: 11,591
Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by wrinx
Well, I have four "real" Alfas sat on my drive...all built since the 1994 cut off above

wrinx
Even the Matta Or it really a FIAT as well
Stori is offline  
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
Alfaguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 2,350
Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

My TR6 was the last true British sports car but I believe the best is yet to come from Alfa and for decades to come
Alfaguy is offline  
Status: missing Inverurie
AO Gold Member
 
Pascs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Qatar
County: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 8,063

Member car:

Zender 156 V6

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

What is the criteria for last true Alfa Romeo - one that truly captured the general public's imagination when Alfa were at there lowest?

Alfa Romeo 156 or current GTV?

SZ or 2.5 GTV - great chassis, great engine, great sound and fabulous looks
Pascs is offline  
wrinx
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stori
Even the Matta Or it really a FIAT as well
Matta is in the garage and makes five (but one is for breaking!).

wrinx
 
Status: up to my eyeballs in work :-(
AO Gold Member
 
Green Cloverleaf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 7,188
Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

A statement like "what was the last true Alfa" is basically saying that you think Alfa Romeo has past it's heyday. I would disagree. I think the best is yet to come.

Certainly, in the eyes of the public (if not necessarily the enthusiasts), the turning point was the GTV & 156. People started talking about cars that wouldn't rust before your eyes and wouldn't break down 20yds down the road from the dealer (although AR are still to fully shake off the old prejudices), but still had style and performance. There is real excitement for the up-coming new models.

I just hope that the company can maintain the momentum. We may see another golden age for one of the few car manufacturers left with a sense of style.
Green Cloverleaf is offline  
Status: Wyrd is Life
AO Gold Member
 
Stori's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
County: -
Posts: 11,591
Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Cloverleaf
A statement like "what was the last true Alfa" is basically saying that you think Alfa Romeo has past it's heyday. I would disagree. I think the best is yet to come.

Certainly, in the eyes of the public (if not necessarily the enthusiasts), the turning point was the GTV & 156. People started talking about cars that wouldn't rust before your eyes and wouldn't break down 20yds down the road from the dealer (although AR are still to fully shake off the old prejudices), but still had style and performance. There is real excitement for the up-coming new models.

I just hope that the company can maintain the momentum. We may see another golden age for one of the few car manufacturers left with a sense of style.
Most of the discussion about the last true Alfa Romeo comes about because people are saying things like "If GM motor in Alfa then not an Alfa anymore" etc
But infact Alfa Romeo have not been Alfa Romeos since FIAT took them over.
What makes Alfa Romeo is not the components . But how the components are used.
Stori is offline  
Status: Smile and wave
Regional Representative
For South Africa - AO-SA
 
Eric Metz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Africa
County: Gauteng
Posts: 5,467
Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

I agree with Stori here, but if you ask what the last Ala was that was designed & developed by Alfa, with real Alfa components, it has to be the 164. If Fiat did not take over Alfa, the 164 would have been released as the replacement for the 90.
Eric Metz is offline  
Status: Quo?
Newbie
 
VeloceMitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: United Kingdom
County: West Yorkshire
Posts: 5,213

Member car:

3 Veloce’s..!

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Except that might make a SAAB 9000 an Alfa....

No I Think the SZ has a good claim to this, with the 75 another possible. Stori is right this has come about from earlier discussions. The implicationis not that the newer Cars aren't alfa's or are any less worthy of the name, it's more to do with the last Alfa design before they became part of Fiat.At tat point the design direction changed considerably.
VeloceMitch is offline  
Status: -
AO Gold Member
 
Spiderman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: United Kingdom
County: Bedfordshire
Posts: 8,688

Member car:

2007 Ford Focus!

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by IanM
Except that might make a SAAB 9000 an Alfa....

No I Think the SZ has a good claim to this, with the 75 another possible. Stori is right this has come about from earlier discussions. The implicationis not that the newer Cars aren't alfa's or are any less worthy of the name, it's more to do with the last Alfa design before they became part of Fiat.At tat point the design direction changed considerably.
Mostly for the better.
Spiderman is offline  
Status: Quo?
Newbie
 
VeloceMitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: United Kingdom
County: West Yorkshire
Posts: 5,213

Member car:

3 Veloce’s..!

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
Mostly for the better.
Visually YES....
Not over sure mechanicaly TBH
VeloceMitch is offline  
Status: up to my eyeballs in work :-(
AO Gold Member
 
Green Cloverleaf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Posts: 7,188
Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stori
Most of the discussion about the last true Alfa Romeo comes about because people are saying things like "If GM motor in Alfa then not an Alfa anymore" etc
But infact Alfa Romeo have not been Alfa Romeos since FIAT took them over.
What makes Alfa Romeo is not the components . But how the components are used.

Absolutely, the ownership of the company (or, come to that, the source of the components) is not the point. It is the design and the "spirit" of the machine. Many of the engine components are sourced from German companies - does that make the car German? No!

My 156 is true-Alfa, and no-one is going to convince me otherwise.
Green Cloverleaf is offline  
Status: Retired
AO Gold Member
 
alfaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: United Kingdom
County: Surrey
Posts: 6,451

Member car:

6C 2500

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Cloverleaf
Absolutely, the ownership of the company (or, come to that, the source of the components) is not the point. It is the design and the "spirit" of the machine. Many of the engine components are sourced from German companies - does that make the car German? No!

My 156 is true-Alfa, and no-one is going to convince me otherwise.
Well said that man.
alfaholic is offline  
Status: -
AO Gold Member
 
Spiderman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: United Kingdom
County: Bedfordshire
Posts: 8,688

Member car:

2007 Ford Focus!

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by IanM
Visually YES....
Not over sure mechanicaly TBH
You might have a point regarding the mecahnicals.Lack of rwd,plus the engine range doesn`t seem as strong as it once was against the competition.
The 156 and GTV definitely win in the visuals though.155,145,75,etc were quirky but not in the same class,aesthetically
Spiderman is offline  
Status: ready4vacations
AO Platinum Member
 
THROTTLEMAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Portugal
County: Porto
Posts: 31,304

Member car:

Alfa 159 QV

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by IanM
Except that might make a SAAB 9000 an Alfa....
Or a Fiat Croma or a Lancia Thema.
THROTTLEMAN is offline  
Status: -
AO Member
 
andy155v6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: preston,england
Posts: 125

Member car:

HF Integrale KAT

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Alfa's are the best thing since un sliced bread and we'll still buy and love em
andy155v6 is offline  
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
HowardA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: United Kingdom
County: Derbyshire
Posts: 1,549

Member car:

2010 S350Bluetec

Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

First, we need a definition of a "true alfa" - technologically advanced, fantastic to drive, beautiful????

The SZ is a bit of a kit car but fabulous & I want one
The 75 is the base for the SZ & therefore cannot be the "last true alfa"

but with the drive layout, they can claim to be tech. adv. & fantastic to drive.

The spider - beautiful (except with rubber spoiler ). RWD.

OR, is the last true Alfa Romeo something from pre-50s, when they became a car for the masses (relatively!).

OR, could it be the Montreal - specially built, low numbers, racing-derived engine

Waiting for an Alfa version of a Maserati Quattroporte
HowardA is offline  
Status: -
Newbie
 
Ralf S.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: The land that Time forgot
Posts: 13,151
Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Apparently it was a left-hand-drive, metallic silver 147 with a 1.6ltr TS engine, destined for Slovenia. Pomigliano d'Arco 05/01/2005 19:28hrs.


Ralf S.
Ralf S. is offline  
Status: -
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,738
Thumbs Up Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

I haven't voted because I just don't know the answer to that. I'm tempted to say the 75, but wasn't that an updated Giulietta. Come to think of it, the Giuietta was a computer aided remake of the Alfetta- so therefore the Alfetta!

I think the truth is that the answer could be many different cars for different people. I think the definition of an Alfa is a stunning car which begs enthusiastic driving, and, whatever it costs, or however tempremental it may be, all will be instantly forgiven within a few miles of driving. An Alfa is a car which brings a smile to the face and will always be fondly remembered like a good friend.

Unfortunately, I don't think my 155 will truely qualify, but time will tell...
ally is offline  
Status: -
Newbie
 
Ralf S.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: The land that Time forgot
Posts: 13,151
Crazed Re: Last true Alfa Romeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ally

Unfortunately, I don't think my 155 will truely qualify, but time will tell...
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?!?!?!?!?

THE BARBARIANS ARE AT THE GATES!



You obviously have the wide-boy version.


Ralf S.
Ralf S. is offline  
Reply

Go Back   Alfa Romeo Forum > Off Topic Section > Poll Room

Tags
alfa , romeo , true

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is this true???? selecta_c General Alfa Discussion 18 14-05-09 17:56
Sinspeed Chip mod +25bhp! Sounds too good to be true! racing red Tuning & Upgrades 13 05-01-09 23:44
Nina Simone - black is the colour of my true love's hair Scudetto Way Off Topic 1 21-12-07 17:16
Strange but true. Alfas have feelings. Artboy Alfa GTV & 916 Spider 8 21-06-06 00:03
Hi! Which Car (Is the alfa myth true?!) adampc275 Alfa 147, 156 & GT 46 04-06-06 12:22

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome